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Suzuki Grand Vitara vs Subaru Forester vs Hyundai Santa Fe vs Jeep Liberty vs Ford Escape vs Saturn Vue

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What is this discussion about? Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Jeep Liberty, Ford Escape, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Saturn VUE, SUV


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Re: my wife is in ohio [explorerx4] by bdyment
Mar 10, 2008 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Mar 08, 2008 7:45 pm)

I am curious. What button are you referring to in the Escape? There is no button for the shift to four wheel drive. Four Wheel Drive is automatic.
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Re: my wife is in ohio [bdyment] by explorerx4
Mar 10, 2008 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: bdyment (Mar 10, 2008 4:50 am)

it's an '04 and actually i think it is a knob that you turn. i got confused with my explorer, which has buttons.
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Re: my wife is in ohio [explorerx4] by thegraduate
Apr 05, 2008 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Mar 10, 2008 1:38 pm)

It's not automatic, a'la CR-V?
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Re: my wife is in ohio [thegraduate] by baggs32
Apr 06, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 05, 2008 10:55 pm)

I had a 2002 Escape and a 2005 Escape. For 2005 the 4WD system was "upgraded" to a fully automated electronic system. The original system for MY01-MY04 had a mechanical "Auto" mode and a 50/50 "Lock" mode, both of which were selectable via a knob on the center stack. The latter esentially locked the axles and sent 50% of the power to the front and 50% to the rear. You were not advised to use that option on dry pavement or at speeds above 65 IIRC.
 
Personally I liked the old one better but the newer electronic system did work very well too.
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Re: my wife is in ohio [baggs32] by thegraduate
Apr 06, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 06, 2008 5:26 pm)

Thanks, I had always assumed that the Escape had an automatic system.
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Re: my wife is in ohio [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Apr 07, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 06, 2008 7:03 pm)

I think it's both, i.e. automatic engagement when there is slip, plus the ability to manually turn on 4WD on slippery surfaces only.
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Re: my wife is in ohio [ateixeira] by baggs32
Apr 07, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 07, 2008 8:46 am)

I think it's both, i.e. automatic engagement when there is slip, plus the ability to manually turn on 4WD on slippery surfaces only.
 
It only had both from 2001-2004. It is now fully automatic and fully electronic. Very much like the Haldex system but this one was developed by Ford IIRC. Like the Fusion, Taurus, and whatever other vehicles use it, it is said to be able to detect when wheel spin might occur and compensate for it by sending power where it is needed making the whole process invisible and seamless. My experience with the first gen version in our '05 Escape is that it did work very much like that but you could still feel the front tires slip ever so slightly from time to time in the soft stuff. Chirping the tires was all but impossible though. I guess the sensors which predict when wheel spin is imminent are programmed to work better on dry pavement.
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Update by scape2
Apr 15, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Well, I used to be in this room quite often when I owned my 2001Ford Escape XLT V6. Wife liked this vehicle so much in 2004 we bought a Mazda Tribute V6 loaded too! I used to go round and round with the Honda CRV owners and Toyota owners about how they would tell me my Ford Escape was going to break down anyday. After using the Escape as a real SUV, towing my two water craft, visiting my favorite fishing spots in the Cascade range and 70,000 miles the Escape ran like a champ! No my wifes Tribute has hit just over 50,000 miles with no problems! These are very reliable vehicles by Ford/Mazda. In the next 2 years wife and I are talking about a Hybrid Escape or Tribute.
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Re: Update [scape2] by thegraduate
Apr 15, 2008 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: scape2 (Apr 15, 2008 6:49 pm)

I used to go round and round with the Honda CRV owners and Toyota owners about how they would tell me my Ford Escape was going to break down anyday.
 
C'mon scape, you were the only one who constantly repeated that, not the other posters. I'm glad you had good short-term service out of your Escape; I've been urging my folks to check out the new Ford Taurus (they want a comfortable highway cruiser to supplant their economical Civic), so I'm not anti-Ford!
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Re: Update [scape2] by ateixeira
Apr 16, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: scape2 (Apr 15, 2008 6:49 pm)

Good luck finding one, Escape hybrids are in very high demand right now. NYC uses them as cabs.

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