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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 19, 2007 6:49 pm) Plus, you'd have to know that the owners actually paid in the first place to determine actual residual values. And the condition of the cars, and the mileage, etc. We don't have enough info to make conclusions. I'd rely more on KBB values or the Automotive Lease Guide (ALG) to make conclusions about resale value. Subaru fans would have been falling over themselves to praise and buy it I'm glad to see you have such confidence in your vehicle, that's great. I was interested enough to test drive one, sure. Would I buy it? No, the V6 didn't offer the extra performance I expected, and didn't sound very refined either. Gas mileage was another concern, especially given the merely average performance. The warranty is great. It's a solid effort, no doubt, but could use a little more polish. Not that the Forester is perfect, far from it. I'd like to see them add a 5EAT, make stability control standard, and stretch the wheelbase just a tad. Any how, I found a better source for residual values: https://www.alg.com/deprratings.aspx As you can see, the Forester gets 4 stars and the Grand Vitara gets a (still good) 3 stars. Cheers. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 20, 2007 5:49 am) ateixeira, thanks for looking up the interesting resale value information. As I said before, GV resale values will also depend on location, and my location likes smaller vehicles. I would also guess most of the GV number would comprise the older, less desired version, while the Forester has been pretty much the same since it was introduced. I think most shortcomings people report with the new GV could be resolved by increasing the sound insulation and softening the suspension. Then the engine would seem quieter, and the whole thing would seem more refined. In fact, I think Suzuki should offer both "softened" and "offroad" versions of the GV. I intend to add acoustic material myself, and the stiff suspension is needed for what we bought it for. I checked the used listings on Canada.com. 6 used 2006 Foresters for an average asking price of $29,400. 10 used 2006 Grand Vitaras for an average asking price of $25,000. Difference in average asking price is $4400. The Foresters were from Ont (2), BC (2), Sask (1) and AB (1). The Vitaras were from Ont (3), AB (3), Quebec (4). So these Vitaras were more likely to be from provinces where small vehicles are less preferred, which would depress resale prices. New, the average MSRP of the most and least expensive 2006 Foresters was $33,250. The average of the most and least expensive new 2006 GV's was $27,250. The difference in MSRP range was $5000. I realize this is a very crude methodology, and it still does not factor out regional differences. But it does not support claims that GV's resale values drop like rocks. Instead, the most likely explanation is the difference in purchase price. I still don't believe I will suffer when it comes time to sell the GV. Just the interest on $5000 will pay for the difference in gas mileage.
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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 20, 2007 9:28 pm) One thing helping that figure right now is that the new 7/100 warranty is fully transferable. Unlike Hyundai - only the 5/60 portion transfers. So a used Hyundai buyer is looking at a warranty that ends at 60k miles, while a used Zook would go all the way to 100k (within 7 years). That actually hurts Hyundai resale. You may as well stretch a buy a new Hyundai, then keep it, to enjoy the full warranty. Cheers.
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According to www.healthycars.org, the Rav4, Tucson and Forester rank at the bottom of the list of suv's for toxic chemicals in the interiors, while the Grand Vitara ranks near the top. Something to consider, especially if you have kids.
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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 27, 2007 2:47 pm)  It stinks for about a week or so. Just crack the windows a tad and it goes away in no time. |
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Replying to: carczar (Nov 28, 2000 6:37 pm) |
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since I visited this room. I owned a 2001 Ford Escape XLT v6 and it was a great vehicle. Remember me!? Escape went over 70,000 trouble free miles.. Wife owns a 2004 Mazda Tribute ES V6. Well, her Tribute now has 50,000 trouble free miles on it. I just brought it in to the shop to have the transmission fluid flushed, brake fluid flush and a power steering system flush. My wife loves this vehicle and doesn't have the slightest feeling to want to trade it in anytime soon. So, looks like this one is going to be in the family for a while. The Escape/Tribute are very good vehicles.
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talk about culture shock. it was snowing(a lot) so she upgraded her cheapest rental possible to a 4x4 jeep liberty. the usual comments started 'lots of cars off the road'. followed by 'this thing has a stupid lever i need to use to get into 4 wheel drive, and i had a hard time getting it to engage. i like that button in my escape'. she even had a sheriff stop her and give her a lecture about not driving during a 'level 3'. she told me she didn't even think the driving was that bad. i guess not having many snow plows messes things up, if you are not used to it.
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Replying to: scape2 (Mar 08, 2008 2:14 pm) George |
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