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You are in the Suzuki Grand Vitara/Vitara
What is this discussion about?
Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Jeep Liberty, Ford Escape, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Saturn VUE, SUV
Sep 15, 2004 (6:30 am)
There are many good choices but IMHO the Forester is the best in this class.
Not just my opinion, CR also picked it as best in class for a Teen Driver. Check their auto issue, is it April or May?
Also, Forester has their best score in their Safety Assessment. That factors in not only the Subie's top safety scores from NHTSA and IIHS, but also the active safety including nimble handling that could help your son avoid an accident in the first place.
Every Forester since 1998 has had ABS and AWD standard, so that makes it easy to shop. Side air bags were optional from 2001-2002, standard after 2003.
No other small SUV matches the availability of those safety features as early as Subaru, period.
#4244 of 4944 'leaning towards the Sante Fe right now, mostly based on looks'...
Sep 15, 2004 (8:43 am)
Wow, really? Personally, I'm not a fan of the design-by-committee look, but hey, some people like Aztecs, too.
#4245 of 4944 Re: 'leaning towards the Sante Fe right now, mostly based on looks'... [ozman62]
Sep 15, 2004 (8:56 am)
#4246 of 4944 Nissan X Trail
Sep 15, 2004 (9:20 am)
Not sure where to post this question, but this looks like as good a place as any. Nissan has introduced the X Trail in the Canadian market and I interested in hear opinions from prospective or current Canadian owners.
#4247 of 4944 Re: 'leaning towards the Sante Fe right now, mostly based on looks'... [ozman62]
Sep 15, 2004 (9:33 am)
The choice by looks is based on my daughter's opinion (that is all that counts with her, of course, being a 16 year old). To be honest, I don't think she has even considered the Forester. My sister has one so I will get some feedback from her as well. I drive a large SUV and that is what she has learned to drive on, so she has gotten used to driving and being above the other vehicles for better visibility around traffic. Does the Forester sit low like a car or is it higher like an SUV? She also surfs and wants something she can attach a board to, but that really shouldn't present a problem with anything she goes with.
Sep 15, 2004 (9:38 am)
X-Trail: any links to the new one?
I thought the old one was impressive, too bad they never brought it here. It would have competed well with the bigger compact SUVs of the time.
Forester sits higher than a car, lower than your SUV. It's easier to get into but doesn't tower over the car in front of you like, say, a 4Runner does. It's not as tippy either, though.
Bonus - Forester's roof rack has cross bars standard, to hold that surf board. It's an extra-cost accessory on most competitors.
Problem with shopping a used Santa Fe is this - does the one you have come with AWD? Is it the V6 or the 4? Is there ABS? Good luck trying to find one with the combination of stuff you want. Most didn't come with ABS, for instance.
Also keep in mind the 10/100 warranty does *not* transfer over to the 2nd buyer, so only the 5/60 is in effect.
The one advantage of a used Hyundai is they depreciate quicker, so you'll pay less for it.
Sep 15, 2004 (9:50 am)
The choice by looks is based on my daughter's opinion (that is all that counts with her, of course, being a 16 year old).
Been there. Done that. It was the same with my daughter, now 21. We ended up getting her a used Prelude back then. Recently she got a CRV (she also surfs!).
The Forester roof rack holds 150 lbs.
You also might want to consider a Subaru Impreza Outback Sport. Mechanically it's almost identical to the Forester, but it is a bit lower, and handles even better. It also comes with a standard roof rack. The big advantage to the OBS, besides being a tad cheaper, is the roof rack is even more accessible because it's lower. That could be a real bonus if your daughter is short, as reaching the roof rack could be a problem—and it will be a problem with the much taller Santa Fe.
Sep 15, 2004 (10:21 am)
Wow, 2.5l 165hp sound familiar? It even looks like a Forester from the profile.
Side air bags are an option, though, Subaru makes them standard. Forester seems to match or beat the equipment on the Nissan save for VDC, and even that is only an option on the most expensive model. AWD isn't standard either.
I absolutely HATE those "centralized gauges", those are awful.
I'm not sure it would bring anything new to the segment. I'd slot it below the Forester and above the Mitsubishi Outlander in this segment. Nothing to write home about.
Sep 15, 2004 (10:30 am)
I absolutely HATE those "centralized gauges", those are awful.,?I>
I couldn't agree more.