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4940 messages, Last post on Sep 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM
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"Oh, and who's buying $40 hitches? Are they made of tin foil?" The universal ones which mount to the bumper run around there, I think. I picked up an entire bumper AND built in receiver for around $200, shipped, I think. Tomken, I believe. The only reason I did that instead of the other hitch was for off road clearance considerations. |
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What's the towing capacity on the Hyundai? If it's not beyond a class 2 then that's probably why hyundai doesn't sell a hitch that is Class 3 or beyond. -mike |
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"Come to think of it, I think the Escape's optional hitch is a wimpy 1 1/4 Class 2. Probably adequate but it sure looks like it belongs on an Accord with a little U-haul trailer behind it." Yes it is. It too is an option, but I don't think I've ever seen an Escape, and I've seen a lot of them, without one. It's part of a package ($140 I believe) that includes the hitch, a wiring harness, and an oil cooler. I think I've read that the Class II hitch is what holds the Escape's towing capacity to 3500 lbs. A beefier hitch could up that number. Probably a good "avoid another law suit" move by Ford to limit it in that manner. I could be wrong though. jaserb, Any good web sites to check prices on SeaDoo's or other competing models? |
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Is rated by the manufacturer in the owners manual, it doesn't have to do with the class hitch. For example most mid-sized SUVs are rated at 5K towing, yet most of their hitches can hold 7500-10,000lbs. -mike |
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| I went back to the manual. 2000 lbs without the tow package, and 3500 lbs with it. I guess the oil cooler really does do something. | |
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That's with trailer brakes, of course. The negative comments I heard about the Hyundai hitch were about poor quality, not capacity. Add that to the fact that I could get a quality aftermarket hitch that bolted right in for way less than the dealer was charging and it was a no-brainer. Re: Sea-Doo jet boats - there's a local dealer that puts their closeouts on eBay with no reserve. VERY tempting. I especially like the Challenger 1800 and Utopia. Plenty of space and nearly as agile as a PWC. And their quite a bit lighter than a conventional I/O of the same size, so a Santa Fe or Escape would have no problem towing even a 20 footer. Yamaha is supposed to build nice ones, too. Most likely I'll go with a 3-4 year old Sea Rayder with the 175 HP motor. I'd avoid the models with twin 2-stroke PWC motors. -Jason |
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The 2" receivers look small until I see a 1 1/4", which look tiny. Subaru has an oil cooler standard on automatics. The 5 speeds don't get them. What funny is that the auto maxes out at 2000 lbs, while the 5 speed goes up to 2400. The opposite of what you'd expect. Aftermarket shops sell the oil cooler separately, if you have a 5 speed and really want one. Boats, IMO, are like pools. It's best if a friend owns them. -juice |
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"Boats, IMO, are like pools. It's best if a friend owns them." That's why I want some form of personal water craft. They're easier to hide, and with three rivers, you can sneak in a ride any time, any where. |
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Most MT Trannies don't have em cause there is no pump in them to move the fluid through the cooler. Not sure how expensive a cooler with pump would be. -mike |
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Sorry, I should have been more specific. It's not a gear oil cooler, it's an engine oil cooler. It bolts right on to the manual trans. -juice |
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