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#3310 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 21, 2002 (7:53 am)
No towing ability? A 5 speed Forester can tow 2400 lbs, and that's just because SoA's US lawyers are very conservative. The Forester in the UK is rated to tow 1800kg, or 3960 pounds.   So it's not that it can't tow, just that SoA is very, very conservative.   And acceleration is not weak, it's within a second of anything else here, and quicker than the V6s in the Sante Fe, XTerra, and Grand Vitara.   There is an ABS fuse in Subarus, but I'd never pull it.   Note that even back in 1999 the Forester had earned a "Good" in that crash test, and even several years later only the Sante Fe matches the last generation Forester. The new one is a Best Pick.   -juice
#3311 of 4940 tincup by anonymous02 Oct 21, 2002 (8:00 am)
Lucky? I don't know if I was even wearing a seatbelt. That wasn't really much of a crash at all. There WAS snow on the side to help buffer things, but still...   I'd rather have the car not get damaged, thanks just the same.
#3312 of 4940 bumpers by anonymous02 Oct 21, 2002 (8:01 am)
Wasn't there a magazine or show or manufacturer which used to have a "bumper basher"?   I'd like to see them have a 30 foot by 12 inch telephone pole, and have it hang from chains, and swing it from like 5-10 feet away and see what kind of results you'd get from that test.
#3313 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 21, 2002 (8:04 am)
Consumer Reports does their own. IIHS has one, too. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but again the Forester came out on top: http://www.highwaysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/low_speed_smsuv.htm The funny part? #2 is the old Forester. LOL -juice
#3314 of 4940 yeah, but... by anonymous02 Oct 21, 2002 (9:15 am)
I'd like to see how they compare to a 1989 Ford F150, or a 1976 Dodge Monaco.   It kind of skews things when they are ALL pretty lame.
#3315 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 21, 2002 (9:51 am)
Most truck bumpers are lame.   They don't have to meet car standard, in fact some trucks do not even come with a rear bumper at all!   For instance, I don't consider the "bumperettes" on the RAV4 to be real bumpers.   -juice
#3316 of 4940 by diploid Oct 21, 2002 (6:04 pm)
Me either and I own one. Gets me real nervous when people tailgate. Who am I kidding...that never happens in NJ...
#3317 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 22, 2002 (7:24 am)
Get a trailer hitch, then leave your receiver in place.   Scares the tailgaters off some times.   -juice
#3318 of 4940 funny - i had an encounter with one of those a few years back by ken_from_nj Oct 22, 2002 (7:28 am)
my 93 mazda mx6 (fairly low nose) happened to introduce itself to the trailer hitch of an explorer or something like it suv. poked a nice clean square hole in the bumber. made for interesting conversation (and that WAS in NJ as well - i think the problem is just too many cars on the road here)
#3319 of 4940 hitch by anonymous02 Oct 22, 2002 (7:50 am)
You can put an extension on as well, or a step, to make it useful.   Does a nice job on radiators, too!   I saw a posting with a guy who was going to make an attachment with 3 long points on it.

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