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#3290 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 18, 2002 (10:08 am)
I make about the same money as my brother in Brazil.   He has a 5 bedroom beach front apartment, fully paid off. I have a jumbo mortgage with 27 years left on it (ouch). Oh, and no beach besides my 3 year old's sand box.   Like I said, you can't compare salaries like that.   -juice
#3291 of 4940 got this from another forum by anonymous02 Oct 18, 2002 (10:22 am)
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#3292 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 18, 2002 (10:41 am)
Interesting that the Koreans ended up competing more with GM, and not the Japanese makes.   I heard Bob Lutz deleted ABS as standard equipment from some models to be able to compete on price with the Koreans.   -juice
#3293 of 4940 Wages make a difference by scape2 Oct 19, 2002 (7:17 am)
Yet another American company established in 1837, the Hathaway comapany lays off 250 workers. It cannot compete with "overseas labor costs".. Todays paper, in the Business section.. Your right though, this is not the place to debate economics...
#3295 of 4940 too bad by anonymous02 Oct 19, 2002 (5:09 pm)
Too bad about the ABS, the inexpensive ABS was a sure winner for GM. Although not as sophisticated as some, it was a low cost safety improvement for many people.   So, not much talk lately about Santa Fe, Liberty, Escape, Forester.   Should this title go away? Should CRV, and others be added?
#3296 of 4940 A lot of by nippononly Oct 19, 2002 (11:07 pm)
people I know are indifferent to having ABS in their car...I am not a stickler for it either. So I don't know if it is a huge selling point with GM - in fact, probably not, since they chose to delete it.   But I was always really glad that all Subies come standard with it. Do any of the other models listed here come standard with it?   I know CRV and RAV4 do not. Also optional on Escape/Tribute. Santa FE? Liberty?
#3297 of 4940 ABS Essential! by xccoachlou Oct 20, 2002 (3:07 pm)
I will *NOT* repeat, NOT buy a new car without ABS. There have been more than a few times, when drivers unaware of what constitutes a safe stopping distance, have cut me off. The ABS has saved me several times.   I do not understand why some companies have chosen to neglect this safety feature, or others think you only need it if you want a sunroof.   As someone else said, "Stomp on the brake and steer" - what a concept!
#3298 of 4940 Crash test results by xccoachlou Oct 20, 2002 (4:50 pm)
The forester did much much better than competition listed here. Some of those other vehicles crumpled like a cheap suit, or something like that.
#3299 of 4940 "crumpled like a cheap suit"??? by scape2 Oct 20, 2002 (5:57 pm)
All cars/trucks/SUV's have to meet minimum safety requirements. I agree some may do better than others. But to try to make the Forester out to be a tank and the others a tin can won't work. The Forester has its weaknesses also. Wagon like styling, no V6, acceleration weak, no towing ability, GVWR, interior room dimensions to name a few....

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