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#3257 of 4940 It's brand new by rsholland Oct 11, 2002 (10:21 am)
#3258 of 4940 But by paisan Oct 11, 2002 (10:22 am)
It's built on known systems. The engine and driveline isn't new. And I'm not sure how long it's been out in Korea.   -mike
#3259 of 4940 by diploid Oct 11, 2002 (10:27 am)
Plus you might want to look into the gas mileage.
#3260 of 4940 by baggs32 Oct 11, 2002 (11:49 am)
"Plus you might want to look into the gas mileage."   I don't particularly care about the gas mileage when car shopping, but the Sorento is listed at 15/20 in the USAToday article if anyone else cares. Seems to be about right for a 3.5L engine even if it only produces about 195 HP.
#3261 of 4940 Re: Anonymous02's SUV by jaserb Oct 11, 2002 (12:59 pm)
<snip> Because, what I'd really really like more than anything is something in between the CRV and Pilot, with HONDA RELIABILITY, or like a slightly upsized Forester, or even the Santa Fe or Escape, BUT...   It would have to have that level of ruggedness and flexibility which comes with solid axles. It would need the reliability of the Honda or Subaru, it would need the 4-low transfer case. It would NOT need a huge motor, but big enough to tow a 2000-3000 pound boat, yet still be miserly on gas. </snip>   I could be missing something here, but doesn't that pretty much describe the XTerra pretty much exactly? I'd be willing to bet a Nissan that's been around for 2-3 years will be more reliable than a brand new Kia, too.   -Jason
#3262 of 4940 by diploid Oct 11, 2002 (1:07 pm)
baggs - Just for comparison, GM's 4.2 I-6 engine is listed at 15/21 mpg. And real world experience is often lower than that.   You might not care, but others do.
#3263 of 4940 by ateixeira Oct 11, 2002 (1:15 pm)
The Kia is priced competitively, so the money you save can pay for that gas.   The V6 isn't overly powerful, but it feels very torquey, very satisfying. You will not feel wanting, and that's in the big van.   That GM has a great engine but it needs a better wrapper, IMO.   -juice
#3264 of 4940 Not what Motor Trend says about Sorento by scape2 Oct 11, 2002 (4:10 pm)
Motor Trend has a page on the Sorento and they felt the V6 had to work too hard for such a heavy vehicle. Also, the market Kia is targeting.. the Sorento has the least powerful V6 in its class.. The interior was also subpar. They ONLY reason this vehicle will sell is because of price. When you pay someone 3 U.S. dollars an hour.. you figure the rest...
#3265 of 4940 clever1 by bess Oct 11, 2002 (5:35 pm)
I love your quotes: "I favor the side of smart consumerism, and you favor the side of promoting corporate success..."   So your implying that anyone who buys a CRV is 'smarter' (or made a smarter purchase) than someone who chooses an Escape?   If there were a such a thing as a 'perfect' vehicle in all aspects, then perhaps you would have a point. However, the CRV is not that vehicle.   Some may even argue that a 'smarter' choice would be a 4door sedan rather than a mini-suv such as the CRV or Escape. (see the thread 'I hate SUV's, why don't you?') They (Sedans) handle better, some have higher quality than the CRV, better MPGs, etc.. So your definition of what constitutes 'a smart purcase' is not universal.   I have no doubt that the CRV is the best choice for your wants, needs and perceptions (you wouldn't settle for anything less than what you want). However for others it is completely valid for the best choice to be something else.   This doesn't make you more, or less smart than anyone else. It only makes you (and everyone else) different from each other.   btw: I am in favor of INFORMED consumerism. (I think anyone who participates or reads forums like this would also agree).
#3266 of 4940 bess by tidester HOST Oct 11, 2002 (6:27 pm)
I am in favor of INFORMED consumerism. (I think anyone who participates or reads forums like this would also agree).   That would have gone without saying had you not mentioned it!   tidester Host SUVs; Aftermarket & Accessories

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