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Isuzu Trooper, SUV
Dec 11, 2003 (6:42 pm)
It will take some original thinking for Isuzu to not go extinct in the USA.
Here's a thought from outside the box: Its late 2005 with the new 2006 diesel 27 mpg Trooper and Isuzu changes the dealer paradigm by selling exclusively over the internet in the USA and allowing select non-dealer shops with Isuzu certified mechanics to process warrantee claims. Isuzu could build to suit that way (build your vehicle after they get your order and deliver it to you in a month) as many other industries are trying to do with their products.
I looked up my 1995 in the condition it was in before being totaled and my current 2001 Trooper.
1995 was $4200
2001 was $13200 down $600 in six months, it will be down to zero in 11 more years at that rate, or going back up as a collectable by then, like International Scouts are.
These KBB numbers agree with the same lookup on Edmunds within a couple hundred dollars.
If I could have found a 5 speed 1995 when replacing my 1995 I would have done that for the terrific value. But the 2001 is more powerful and a bit quieter. I miss my OME shocks and springs that I had on the 1995, I'll fix that next year along with 265/75 tires to make those big wheel well flares not look like so much overkill.
#8893 of 11966 Outside the box
Dec 12, 2003 (7:19 am)
Interesting idea. As part of this they would have to have some limited network of showrooms so that someone could go and look and test the vehicles as I for one would not buy a car only through the Internet without having a chance to touch it first.
I can't understand why Isuzu sells a rebadged product from GM while at the same time they say they have no plans to bring in their new pick-up, which was essentially developed by Isuzu but is only being sold here through Chevy and GMC. If Isuzu is going to survive as a niche player they have to sell their own products (including capitalizing on their expertise with diesels) and selling their new pick-up with an Isuzu diesel or Isuzu gas direct injection engine would be an immediate boost to sales. On the flip side, I think selling the Ascender (or any other rebadged product they may plan to sell in the U.S.) only weakens what remaining value the Isuzu brand has.
#8895 of 11966 Resale Value
Dec 12, 2003 (11:22 am)
To read this Board you would sometimes think our resale values are ridiculous low. However, I think Pinoy99 put it in very good perspective when he stated - "Isuzu heavily discounted their lineup before, with folks paying as low as 7.5k off MSRP so one should really take this into account when figuring its resale value".
That kind of ties in with something I just checked. Namely my 99 is now worth about $7k dollars less than a 99 4runner. IIRC $7k is about what I saved when I bought my Trooper rather than my second choice which was a 4runner. Thus, I am really no worse off resale wise for having bought the Trooper. Plus, the longer I keep the Trooper the more this difference in resale value will decrease. Also I probably save a few bucks in cheaper insurace premiums each year since the Trooper is worth less and stolen less.
Thus, while Isuzu troubles are not a good thing, they have not really been an issue for me (Note: I of course realize that some of you have outstanding warranty issues, and I wish you luck). Then again, if they really fold up and repair parts disappear, that could change.
Dec 12, 2003 (11:33 am)
Great article! (I either missed it when it came out or just forgot about it).
#8897 of 11966 Direct Ordering
Dec 13, 2003 (12:15 am)
IIRC Mazda in Japan does this. You order on a website or on a web-style site a walking showroom, and then your car is delivered a month or 2 later to you directly.
#8898 of 11966 ISUZU value....
Dec 13, 2003 (8:36 pm)
is still there if you plan to drive it for 5-7 years and have a dealer you still have confidence in. Otherwise find a local independent repair shop that can maintain it for you, and your in good shape. BUT if you planned to resell your Trooper in about 4 years after you bought it, too bad... Most on this board talk of their Troopers as long term commitments, and should have nothing to worry about. Drive it 200k miles and you will have had a bargin! Hey, last time I looked they are still well built vehicles, rugged, solid, and comfortable on the road.
#8899 of 11966 Local Mechanics
Dec 13, 2003 (11:33 pm)
As much as you'd like to think that, the parts prices on replacement parts is CRAZY, and some stuff is just not feasible to be fixed by a local mechanic For the most part your truck should be ok, but god-forbid something major, you are gonna be stuck with a high repair bill IMHO.
#8900 of 11966 Keep your dealer in business?
Dec 14, 2003 (9:03 am)
Personally, I'm bringing my Trooper to my dealer for everthing, including oil changes. The don't charge excessively, and I figure any business they get can only be good for them.
They just built a new showroom for Isuzu, and I know they sell a ton of Rodeos still, so maybe they'll be okay. The Rodeo is a great buy.