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Isuzu Trooper, SUV
Feb 22, 2003 (11:03 am)
Regardless of where you have the service done (dealer or independent shop), look at what the owners manual specifies and decide what to have done. If you go to the dealer and say 'give me the 30k service' you will pay much more money than you should. There are some important items to be done at that mileage, but many of the things in the owners manual are checks or inspections and the dealer is making a lot of money without doing much to help your truck.
Plus, many dealers will add on even more 'services' at the typical maintenance intervals. Often, these are not needed but are simply there to give the dealer more revenue and profit.
I feel that I take pretty good care of our 1998 Trooper, but I have NEVER taken it anywhere and had a XX,000 mile service performed. I always look at the specified maintenance items in the owners manual, consider how our Trooper is driven (plenty of city driving, but not very hard-duty; no towing; no off-roading; light gas and brake pedals; etc.), and decide what things need to be done and when.
Your 1999 may have some of the 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty left, so that's a consideration. However, it is very unlikely that you will 1) have any powertrain problems in the near future (with the possible exception of the intake manifold gasket, if yours hasn't been replaced under warranty already); and 2) have the dealer examine your service records to determine if they can deny the work under warranty due to improper or neglected maintenance. I.e. if your TOD unit dies, it won't have been because you didn't spend $600 on the 30k service and I think most all dealers wouldn't try to nail you on it. If they can easily get the warranty claim approved by Isuzu and get reimbursed for the work, they will gladly make the fix.
That's just my opinion.
Feb 22, 2003 (3:34 pm)
Mine came in under $400. $254 for service, $115 for parts. I was somewhat satisfied with the service. However when I went back for a warranty repair 2 weeks later they told me I needed new brakes...something they are supposed to check at 30K...which means I had to pay for the bearing repack twice, once during the 30K and then when they removed the front rotors.
Feb 22, 2003 (6:18 pm)
That's poor treatment by the dealer. sbcooke, I wouldn't have had the guts to demand a free re-do, but that is exactly what they should done for you.
Those are the kind of stories that really make me think dealers don't always perform all of the 'checks' and 'inspections' that they claim to perform. Or at the very least, they do a sloppy or cursory inspection when they should be doing more.
I was glad to learn, before I had any of the work done, that it makes sense to do the wheel bearing repack at the same time as brake work. I'm glad I didn't pay for this to be done at 50-60k, then need it re-done when a brake job was performed at 75k.
#7193 of 11964 Emiura - TOD Check Light
Feb 23, 2003 (3:33 am)
It does both!
A couple of times the check light and TOD display kept blinking until I turned off the ignition and then started again.
It seems that it will usually return to normal after a few seconds.
#7194 of 11964 re: bluedevils
Feb 23, 2003 (9:16 am)
I didn't demand, but expressed my anger. They gave me a little break in the labor costs, but not enough. I am going to also ask for a free oil change next time I bring it in.
It is a catch 22, I found a dealer that will do warranty work, reasonably well, so I cannot slam them too hard because I need to go back.
#7195 of 11964 hello from a new trooper owner
Feb 23, 2003 (7:16 pm)
Hi, I recently purchased a 2002 Trooper S4WD and was very happy to find this useful forum as well as other Trooper resources. The Trooper is both my first 4X4 and first "new" vehicle. I got a great deal and am thrilled with the truck so far. I live near D.C. and the Trooper has had no trouble with our recent snowfall. In fact, I never even needed to use more than TOD to negotiate the 22" snowfall!
I've begun a number of aftermarket modifications, the latest of which was the install of a new Alpine CD/MP3 head unit. The install went fine save for a couple of things. So far, I have not been able to get the trim peive back on the unit as it is a tight squeeze. I'm hoping someone may have some tips? Also, the CD works great but my radio reception is very bad..full of static. I connected the larger of the two antenna wires but left the other alone. Does anyyone have any experience with these issues? Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks!
#7196 of 11964 re: new trooper
Feb 24, 2003 (7:03 am)
"In fact, I never even needed to use more than TOD to negotiate the 22" snowfall!"
TOD is not a lightweight AWD system. It is essentially 4WD High that has a clutch to allow for slippage between front and rears on pavement and neat computer tricks to re-route power as needed.
Feb 24, 2003 (7:24 am)
Nice to have you.
sbcooke wanted to be sure you understand that TOD is as good as it gets: it's full time 4WD high. Your truck has a limited slip differential in back, too, so compared to most "four wheel drives" (which have open differentials and can only bang on the front axle or disengage the front axle) you are putting a lot of traction on the road.
I think you will find that TOD is better than 4 wheel drive low in most snow situations because it can shift power from back to front depending on what's slipping. If you put it in 4 low, you can easily start all four wheels spinning with all the power coming out of the engine and the halved gear ratios. Plus, of course, with 4 wheel low, your top speed will be in the 35 to 40 range, I think (and the engine will be revving at that speed).
#7198 of 11964 jslakie - antenna
Feb 24, 2003 (7:59 am)
The Trooper has a "diversity" antenna. Both rear side windows have an antenna element on the glass, a computer continuously selects the best signal between the two.
So they both should probably be hooked up. I would hook up both and see how it goes - I am just wondering why they were unhooked in the first place...
#7199 of 11964 Yellow Fluid
Feb 24, 2003 (10:09 am)
Over the past few weeks I have noticed a yellow fluid under my 99 Trooper. I am not aware of any fluid that would be yellow in the vehicle and have put it off as possible animal urine as the truck is left outside. Does anyone have any ideas on this or know of a yellow fluid that may be used?