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#6683 of 11965 2003s.... by cracovian

Jan 09, 2003 (7:49 am)

Here we go again talking about the "next year's" Trooper... Anyway, when I was buying my 2002 Trooper back in July I went to a few dealerships and got a couple of quotes online.
 
We picked the best quote (like $9000 off or something) and on the way there we decided to stop to actually test drive the vehicle for the first time in some other place (Atlanta Horton Isuzu or something like that) whose Internet guy came pretty close to matching the original quote.
 
Since he was busy we decided to talk to a "regular" salesperson who took us for a test drive and stuff. They were loaded with Troopers back then and I asked him for the best price that he was willing to offer. The dude looked so serious when he showed me a laughable deal that I don't think even included rebates or anything. I told him that the price was ridiculous and we decided to walk away. He then called the owner/manager who was the biggest salesperson jerk I've ever met. They did not BUDGE a cent on the price (oh yeah, they would include a cruise) and his only justification for the hot demand was the fact that 2002s were in such short supply and 2003s were about to arrive from the ports. I was speechless, walked away, and bought my current Trooper 1 hour later from Pugmire

#6684 of 11965 Horton by paisan

Jan 09, 2003 (8:09 am)

They are a joke. The showed up to one of our Isuzu Runs Uwharrie National Forest. They had a truck with some big tires and bumpers but they were DRINKING on the trail, Littering their Beer Cans on the trail which is bad enough. On top of it Alchol is illegal in National Parks!
 
-mike

#6685 of 11965 Thinking about some upgrades... by ez_j

Jan 09, 2003 (9:54 am)

Howdy all,
 
I drive a '01 Trooper S with 20k on it. Since the Denver tech & telecom market has fallen on hard times, I had to take a job that's a 67-mile round trip from my house, and I get to drive through the worst traffic Denver has to offer.
 
In trying to come up with ways to improve my gas mileage - short of installing a sail on the roof or trading it in for a moped - I've been thinking about dropping in a K&N filter and installing a dual exhaust system with larger-diameter pipes and free-flowing mufflers. (A fun side benefit would be adding a lovely 'rumble' to the Trooper.)
 
I waded through the past 900+ posts here, plus I checked isuzu-suvs.com, but couldn't find any mention of anyone performing exhaust modifications on their Trooper.
 
So I'll throw this out to the group here. Has anyone done this sort of thing before, or heard of someone doing it? Would reducing the backpressure screw anything up? Is this a complete waste of time and money in anyone's opinion?
 
As much as I'd like to make these changes, if it turns out they'll actually shorten the life of my engine, no way will I go through with them.
 
Finally, on an unrelated side note, I'm definitely upgrading the horn, maybe dropping in one of those $15 "Highway Blasters" you get at JC Whitney. The horn on this vehicle sounds like something out of a Honda Civic - doesn't quite match the Trooper's size.
 
Thanks in advance for any input.
 
EZ

#6686 of 11965 Horns and MPG by paisan

Jan 09, 2003 (10:00 am)

EZ

Here are a few tips...

I got the Hella Triple Trumpet Horns from susquehana motorsports. Great horns, have had them 3 years now w/o problems. I wired them in parrallel to the stockers so they work great. Pics at my site http://isuzu-suvs.com I can give you some tips ont he install too.

As for MPG:

Adding a K&N reduced my milege but gave me more kick. Same would hold true for a dual exhaust/larger muffler system. Basically it will let air flow more freely but IMHO will decrease MPG rather than Increase it.

-mike

#6687 of 11965 K&N mpg... by ez_j

Jan 09, 2003 (10:51 am)

Paisan,
 
Did you replace the existing stock filter in the air filter box with the K&N filter, or did you replace the whole assembly with one of those filtercharger kits?
 
So you got less mileage when you made this change. Huh! I've talked to other folks who say their mileage increased when they made this change (along with receiving a small HP boost). Interesting.
 
Thanks for the info!
 
ez

#6688 of 11965 I did the by paisan

Jan 09, 2003 (10:53 am)

K&N Drop in filter.
 
It was a minor drop .5->1mpg and increase in power >4000 RPMs.
 
-mike

#6689 of 11965 MPG and Paisan by tkevinblanc

Jan 09, 2003 (10:57 am)

But Paisan your mileage will go down no matter what you install... becuase you ALWAYS have your right foot mashed to the floor to take advantage of every extra bit of power gleaned from the install. For those of us that drive more gently, the K&N improves mileage. But not very much.
 
And your opinion isn't humble, Paisan.
 
I wonder if more street oriented tires would help a little. I can't imagine it being worth changing, though, unless yours are completely worn out.
 
I think basically engine displacement and aerodynamics and vehicle mass dictate mileage.
 
Oh, slowing down will help. At 60 I can get just about 20 on the highway. At 70, it's more like 18. (Once again, you can see how my approach to driving varies from Paisan's. I consider it an option to drive at about 60.)

#6690 of 11965 60mph by paisan

Jan 09, 2003 (12:45 pm)

I've been forced to do 55-60 on the NYS thruway at times, and registered 21mpg.
 
Street oriented tires would definitely help, in addition to a light foot and high tire pressures.
 
And yes, I mash the pedal all the time
 
-mike

#6691 of 11965 mileage and exhaust by sdc2

Jan 09, 2003 (1:03 pm)

I have not done anything to my exhaust yet, but when it rusts out I will probably put on a Walker SuperTurbo low restriction muffler. I had one of these on my old Pathfinder and liked it a lot. Don't really know if it will help mileage, though. I would not expect more than 1 mpg improvement in any case. As was mentioned, slowing down is by far the most effective mpg increase method for the brick-on-wheels Trooper.
 
Wasn't there some talk about a "Powervault" muffler, with some dyno tests from a Vehicross?
 
Bottom line is, you can buy alot of gas for the cost of an upgraded exhaust (unless you need new exhaust anyway). Of course, with a new exhaust you DO get the benefit of the rumble...

#6692 of 11965 re: mileage by sbcooke

Jan 09, 2003 (1:09 pm)

Maybe we could have Matt at independent4x4 make some kind of wind fairing...not only reducing wind resistance and increasing mileage, but also increasing potential top speeds.

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