Isuzu Trooper

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#5690 of 11964 My Trooper Tow Vehicle post from the Mac26X discussion. by boxtrooper

Sep 12, 2002 (7:14 pm)

In Response To: Easy Towing, All Conditions? (Tim, SF Bay, The Ashley Rose) http://www.macgregor26x.com then "Discussions"

If I had the pick the perfect tow vehicle I would pick the GMC or Chevy Duramax Diesel pickup with All Wheel Steering and a extra cab or crew cab even. This combination is not yet available. You can get it with an 8 cylinder 6L gas engine. The Hummer H2 would be good too if it had the Duramax. My wife would not let me get a big V8 pickup or SUV that gets only 9 city and 13 hwy MPG, the Duramax would get the MPG up high enough (my guess 15MPG towing the Mac26X, 16+ city 20+ hwy) to make her happy.
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I am very pleased with my present tow vehicle (11.2 MPG towing Mac26X 16-17 city 18-20hwy MPG). An Isuzu Trooper-S 1995 with 130K miles and going strong. The engine is 6cyl 175hp, I added http://www.directhits.com to get better towing performance. The Trooper has a very tight suspension in the rear, look under one and you can see the leverage that the extremely long control arms have. I also added (only $65 each, installs in an hour) progressive rate rear coil springs made by OldManEmu down in Austrailia where the Trooper is a Jackaroo and it is known for heavy duty off road use. Other than that and OME shocks my Trooper is stock. I have had no sway problems even when oncoming trucks pass cloase by. The 1995 Trooper weighs around 4250 lb. dry. I think the very well controlled suspension makes my Trooper tow better than much heavier vehicles with sloppy suspensions. The engine and manual transmission are very sturdy units and are ready to tow as is, no extra coolers etc.. And 1995 Troopers are probably available for less than $9000. If you want neww, this is a bargain year for Isuzu Troopers 2002 is the last year the Trooper will be offered in the USA. The closeouts are great deals $7000 to $9000 below MSRP (be sure to get the 4wd model to make getting up the ramp really easy and to make owning a Trooper that much more fun.). The 2002 Troopers have much more power than my 1995 and they have grade logic transmissions which means they will automatically downshift to maintain speed down hill. Isuzu Trooper is the best value available for towing the Mac26X. Troopers are very big inside (90.2 cubic feet) and can handle a third row seat for three or fold the seats and put in the 18.5 cubic foot refridgerator and still be able to close the doors. On the outside the Trooper takes about the same parking space as a Toyota Camry, small enough and very peppy for fun driving on the commute or to bring the kids and their friends to events. Trooper seats are the firm suportive type that feel good for long drives and keep you in control when driving agressively, they are not deep cushy "luxery" "sofa on wheels" seats My kids and their friends ask to ride in the Trooper when there is more than one vehicle to ride in. Even Consumer Reports the magazine proven in court to have lied intentionally calling their the Trooper -rollover publicity stunt a fair test will tell you that the Trooper is way ahead of every other similar sized SUV in reliability. Expect well over 200K miles with few probelms, not even rattles as long as you do the maintenance.
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Sorry to go on and on. The only thing wrong with the Trooper is that it is not American made (The factory in in Japan). But it is American to get the best quality for your money and that is the Trooper, expecailly this year.

#5691 of 11964 1994 Isuzu Trooper by hemsley1

Sep 12, 2002 (8:36 pm)

I am thinking about buying a second vehicle and I found a 1994 Isuzu Trooper LS that I love. My only concern is that it has 125,000 miles, and I'm afraid it will not last much longer. I would appreciate some advice from anyone that has experience with a 94 with this many miles on it. Thank you in advance.

#5692 of 11964 124K by paisan

Sep 13, 2002 (4:39 am)

Haaaa it's just been broken in. You should have about another 125K left on the ticker if properly maintained.
 
-mike

#5693 of 11964 125k miles on a Trooper by bluedevils

Sep 13, 2002 (5:44 am)

It could have another 125k miles ahead of it, but you really need to find out how well the vehicle has been maintained so far.

#5694 of 11964 1994 Trooper maintenance by hemsley1

Sep 13, 2002 (7:25 am)

I appreciate the input...It seems like it's been taken care of, but how do you know how well it's been maintained. I don't really know how to maintain a vehicle myself, all I do is change the oil every 3000 miles. Should I ask the guy for service records, and if so, what should I be looking for. He's the second owner. I would appreciate any kind of feedback.

#5695 of 11964 Have a Trooper mechanic look at it by boxtrooper

Sep 13, 2002 (7:34 am)

In Raleigh,NC there is a Trooepr shop called http://www.creechimport.com/ which is the place I would recommend taking it. They know the Trooper real well (they started as just an Isuzu shop) and they know how well it is made and they know what can go wrong for lack of maintenance.
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If the engine sounds smooth and idles smooth and there is good power on your test drive and the oil is clean and at the right level and no leaks the chances are you will have a good long life engine. Troopers do a good job cooling the engine which helps make it last.
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Next time it is due for timing belt get the timing belt tensioner and water pump changed with it.

#5696 of 11964 Potential Trooper Purchase by breakor

Sep 13, 2002 (8:08 am)

Like noted above have a mechanic check it over. Make sure they do compression checks and check ALL fluids for level and condition. This should verify if it is presently in good operating condition.
Also, review the maintenance records to make sure all the services have been done per the owners manual (e.g. frequent oil changes, gear oils replaced, AT fluid flushed, timing belt replaced, etc.). These records should give you your best clue as to whether the vehicle might stay in good condition.
My opinion, FWIW, is that these vehicles can easily go 250k+mis. if properly maintained. However it they are ignored you can expect to see some major problems starting around 125kmis.
Lastly, don't be fooled by clean fresh oil in an otherwise bad engine.

#5697 of 11964 Trooper - Last year? by djweber

Sep 13, 2002 (10:29 am)

Boxtrooper or anyone else...is something replacing Trooper in the U.S.? The Axiom intended as sole replacement?

#5698 of 11964 Trooper no replacement by boxtrooper

Sep 13, 2002 (11:29 am)

Sadly, Isuzu has given away the flagship position in its SUV lineup to a GM clone called Ascender. The Ascender is basically the same as the Chevy Trailblazer or GMC Envoy or the new one by Buick.
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There was a plan for the GBX, but I think there was also a shortage of cash to build it. Meanwhile GM was out of ideas on what to replace their ancient mid size SUV with. GM that own enough of Isuzu to control it, and they diverted the design efforts of Isuzu to design the Chevy Trailblazer platform. That might have been OK if it turned out to be more Isuzu than GM, but GM made them design it the GM way. I expect the Ascender to be far more reliable than the previous GM mid size SUVs, but it will suffer from extreme volume production. What I mean by that is that there will be a staff of people who's job it is to cut the cost of production and that forces the vehicle to ride the edge of quality vs cost. I think it is what has made a lot of the big three cars fail on quality from time to time. When they get it right they can have both low cost and high quality, but there is always the big pressure of big volume to save another penny.

#5699 of 11964 The by paisan

Sep 13, 2002 (11:29 am)

A$$ender is taking it's place in the lineup. Just another GM clone Nothing in the tradition of Isuzu engineering or reliability.
 
-mike
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