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#5196 of 11966 manual vs automatic & handling
Jul 22, 2002 (7:22 pm)
Has anyone significant experience driving both the manual and automatic grade logic TOD 2002 Troopers? I am still thinking about getting a 2002 and both are available, unfortunately a few minutes test drive is not the same as living with a Trooper. I like the fun of a manual, but I like TOD and grade logic too. What MPG difference should I expect comparing the 2002 manual to a 2002 automatic? (I know the sticker is the same, but I think that is because Isuzu did not want to pay to have the MPG study done twice) I get 15 to 17 MPG around town and 18 to 20 MPG highway with my 1995.5 manual. What are the chances I get one of those that I occationally hear about on this discussion that gets 13 MPG? I would never hear the end of it if I "upgraded" to a worse gas guzzler.
I really wish they had the Diesel Trooper for 2002, my wife would let me pay full price to get the better MPG.
Handling: Troopers have better handling than any SUV with 90 cubic feet of cargo capacity or 8 seats (aftermarket third row). Only the Toyota Land Cruiser might handle as well or a little better with about the same cargo and passenger capacity, but that costs twice as much and sucks down a lot more fuel and it still far from a sports car. What other large SUVs have you heard handle better than Trooper? Can anyone compare the handling of the Yukon/Tahoe to the Trooper? I can get the GM employee discount and as an added bonus the dealer warrantee repair shop will get to know me very well.
#5197 of 11966 Gradelogic and TOD
Jul 22, 2002 (7:25 pm)
You can't get the Gradelogic on the MT, not sure if that's what you meant.
To me the AWD is worth the money. Handlingwise it should be the same other than the engine braking you can apply with the MT.
Jul 22, 2002 (9:59 pm)
Xterra isn't available in Australia. We get the real Nissans for offroad like Patrol.
How different is Xterra to Pathfinder?
Jul 23, 2002 (3:45 am)
The X is pretty different from the Pathy. If you get the Nissan pickup it's basically a nissan pickup with a cap and about 500+ more lbs. weight.
#5200 of 11966 XTerra versus Pathfinder, manual versus automatic.
Jul 23, 2002 (3:50 am)
The Xterra is a pickup truck conversion. It's the Frontier with a body on the back. Kind of like the 4Runner is. It is not at all like the Pathfinder, which is not body-on-frame constructed.
I guess part of the Xterra's ground clearance advantage could be because its rear diffy is smaller. :-0 I still hold that at certain aspects of off roading, like rock crawling, it would be the better vehicle.
All that said, I bought the Trooper and love it.
Regarding the manual versus automatic issue, the automatic will pay for itself at resale time, even if you drive it almost forever.
#5201 of 11966 Xterrra etc.
Jul 23, 2002 (7:03 am)
I look at the Xterra as similar to my old 88 Pathfinder. Body on frame, 3.0 liter engine (or thereabouts), automatic hubs. Mechanically it is relatively old-school for an SUV, which I actually see as a good thing. Today's Pathfinder is a luxury unibody not for serious off-road use.
I haven't driven an Xterra, or even sat in one, but would consider one if in the market. But it won't beat the Trooper in size and interior volume for the dollar, not even close.
In terms of off-road capability, these are both pretty capable vehicles, I wouldn't sweat it either way.
#5202 of 11966 HELP needed...
Jul 23, 2002 (9:01 am)
finding those chassis drawings posted on this board a month or two back. Someone had scanned pictures out of a Trooper Maintenance Manual and set up a link to look at them. The ones I'm particularly interested in were of the chassis, drive train, front end suspension and rear suspension. Anybody know where those are?? About what message # they were posted with??
#5203 of 11966 Radio Program
Jul 23, 2002 (10:15 am)
A listener phoned in to CLICK & CLACK with a problem with her Trooper and they couldn't stop laughing. It sounded like the Trooper could be compared to a YUGO in the reliability department. Said they were expensive to repair and never last 100,000 miles.
#5204 of 11966 That's Great WHeels
Jul 23, 2002 (11:13 am)
Cause for those in the know we can pick up used ones dirt cheap!
Jul 23, 2002 (11:45 am)
I downloaded the PDFs for the front and rear suspension so send me an e-mail and I will send them to you. chapla.tmellon.com