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#11071 of 11966 Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Nov 23, 2005 (2:29 pm)
I sold my 2000 S Trooper in May and p/u up a loaded Pilot. Different animal all together, but better suited for my purpose. I put about 150K on my Trooper and was generally pleased. Very tough, very tight and always fun to drive. If Isuzu would have updated, I would have bought another one in a flash. Troopers are really good value for the money. Just be ready to run them awhile as re-sale is terrible. After 100K or so, replacement parts can be very expensive. Good luck to all!
Hey Paisan, what did you end up buying!
Cheers to all!
#11073 of 11966 Hello from New Member
Nov 25, 2005 (12:43 pm)
Hello from New Member
Thank you to all who have posted on this list. I read a lot of your comments before buying a 2002 Trooper with 65k miles.
So far I am very happy with my new toy. From the comments on this board, I think I know the downside to owning one of these "orphans", whose parent company may be fading from the scene.
It looks like most of the Troopers are pretty solid and reliable, but there are a few lemons. Hope I got one of the good ones.
I am gonna fix the suspension and tires first because this thing rides like an old truck. While shopping, I drove others that rode much better.
#11075 of 11966 Re: Hello from New Member [boxtrooper]
Nov 27, 2005 (4:01 pm)
Thanks for the encouragement, Boxtrooper. I'll be on the phone to ARB tomorrow to discuss Old Man Emu suspension parts.
I decided to buy a used car so it would be paid for, and then mod it to my satisfaction.
My driving will be mostly highway with mild to moderate off-road occasionally. I live in Eastern Washington, where there are mountains, and four definite seasons. My previous car was a late model Volvo with plastic air dam in the front. I got really tired of scraping the ground-effect fairings on curbs and rocks and bottoming out if I went on the slightest rough road. I got to thinking about my '53 Willys wagon that I had in college
and decided to go for something similar with room to haul a piece of furniture or some bikes in the back.
I'd prefer to keep one set of tires on the Trooper year round, and I want to be able to drive a few hundred miles to Seattle and back with good road handling and low noise.
So here are two questions for you or other readers with experience: Do you think the Sway Away torsion bars add anything if you don't have a lot of extra weight from a winch or bull bars in the front of the Trooper? Is there anything other than new EMU shocks that I should do to the front suspension of the Trooper for good on/off road handling and ride?
Should I stay with standard size tires (245/70 X 16), or go oversize. If oversize, how much and why?
And, yes, I did a search of the forum and read everything here about installing bigger tires. I am suspicious that most people put on larger tires because they look cool. The most informative statements I found about oversize tires are that they look cool, that they float better in sand or soft ground, and that they also float in snow (which you don't want to do because it decreases traction). I don't recall seeing comments about how larger tires change the ride or handling on pavement. (Oh yeah, you get slower acceleration and stopping because of the greater mass of the tire.) But how does it feel when you drive it?
So, I'm definitely going to upgrade my suspension, then decide if it's "time to re-tire".
#11076 of 11966 Re: Hello from New Member [greentroop]
Nov 27, 2005 (5:24 pm)
Oversize / taller tires provide increased ground clearance plus putting more rubber on the road at the expense of increased rolling resistance / fuel economy, spreading out the contact patch losing more lbs. / sq. in. of tire loading for better snow performance, gear ratio change, higher center of gravity, etc.
I run 255/70x16 B'stone Dueler A/T Revo's which increased the ground clearance by only a 1/2" & wouldn't cause an issue with my wife climbing in...really depends on what your needs are. I run 35 / 38 psi F/R & the Revo's are not harsh under the Rancho 9000 shocks at the 5 setting.
Besides the suspension upgrades, I would make sure all of the fluids have been changed, plugs, pcv valve & especially the EGR induction service - including removing deposits around the intake butterfly valve to insure it closed properly if it hasn't been done with the mileage reported.
#11077 of 11966 Re: Hello from New Member [greentroop]
Nov 27, 2005 (8:46 pm)
IMHO, the bigger tires look a lot nicer if you have the plastic wheel well flairs. I went with the 265/75R16 Geolander G051 because they were light weight for their size, and I think there is a direct relation between tire weight and MPG.
Other than looks, the bigger size tire does provide a bit more truck-like ride, firmer, quicker steering response, bigger bounce over small bumps etc.. But the difference is not huge and you can get the firmer ride from the smaller tire by running it at higher pressure.
If you want the best fuel economy get a street only rib type 245/75R16 tire of the lightest wieght you can find.
If you want the best offroad while still being quiet and good handling on the road with decent stopping power and ice performance get the REVOs. Get a larger size like 265/75/16, 275/70R16 or even 285/75/16 will fit, the larger diameter and more weight takes away MPG. I think the Trooper brakes are excellent and can stop you well even with the heavier tires. Note that there is a truck tire study on the internet somewhere that concludes that more tread or more agressive tread reduces MPG also. Note also that there is a P265/75R16 REVO tire that has one less steel belt and less tread depth than the LT version which makes it lighter for better MPG.
If you want a compromise between the two above, quieter than REVOs just as good on road, and a competant but not terrific off road tire try the G051s in a 265/70R16 for a little bigger look without much MPG hit.
For everything the G051s give you but even more quiet and perhaps a little better on road ice performance try the Bridgestone Dueler Alenza, but these cost more than G051s.
Then there's the unknown new tire from GoodYear. It looks like a SUV sized version of their very successful minivan tire. This one has the snow flake on the side because it neets that snow tire traction requirement.
Nov 28, 2005 (6:42 am)
Guys, I posted a question about TOD problems in the Isuzu Maintenance & Repair topic. Didn't want to list the same question this this topic, but did want to mention it here in hopes that more people would see it in the Maint/Repair topic. Thanks!
#11079 of 11966 Re: Hello from New Member [boxtrooper]
Nov 28, 2005 (1:30 pm)
Many thanks to boxtrooper and troop2shos for all your helpful tips. I am checking out all the info on tires and shocks and stuff and will report back on the results.
#11080 of 11966 Re: OPINIONS, PLEASE [dmuzyka]
Nov 29, 2005 (6:52 pm)
Question, Was your transmission slipping in all gears or just the first gear... My 2001 trooper slips only in 1st gear if I do a quick start??? any suggestions...thanks, ca