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#10525 of 11964 1999 Trooper S
Feb 24, 2005 (5:04 pm)
I'm contemplating buying a silver 1999 Trooper S 3.5L with 56K miles on it. The owner says it's been great except for one "idiosyncrasy" in that the check engine light comes on and off seemingly based on how much gas is in the truck and if the gas cap is on tight. Besides that he says it's been fine, and he had a 45K mile tune-up that included replacing the serpentine belt. Has original tires and everything seems to work fine. The asking price is $8600 but I've pulled up TMV here on Edmunds and kbb and it's showing $7600. I guess I'm looking for feedback on if I should try to snap this up for $7500 or stay away all together. I've read the last 100 or so posts about people having all kinds of issues and it's making me leary. Anybody have any general comments before I pull the trigger? Known things to look for perhaps? I'm aware of Isuzu's financial situation, and there is a dealer 10 miles away, for how long who knows. The vehicle has never towed and never been offroad and always garaged here in Minnesota. Any input appreciated.
#10526 of 11964 Re: 1999 Trooper S [ccermak]
Feb 24, 2005 (6:37 pm)
7600 / 8600 . . . you're probably good either way, although 7600 would be my top end for a '99. Yes, the gas cap does have to be on tight (3-4 clicks) in order to avoid the dreaded CEL.
At 56k. the tranny should have been flushed (not just drained) at least once, already. Otherwise, you'd better plan on spending $150 or so right away to get it done. I will have a new tranny on the way shortly, 'cause the dealer's drain and fill just doesn't cut it.
Serpentine belt at 50k is about right . . . minor expense anyway. Spark plugs should be changed around 50k, regardless of what the owner's manual says. Research this board a bit to find out why.
Those are the major issues. This truck is a real treat to own and drive, regardless of any contrary impression you may get from reading this board.
BTW, mine is an '01 LS 2WD with nearly 50k on the odo. NO probs, other than the funky OD shudder from the tranny that Isuzu will fix.
Feb 24, 2005 (6:46 pm)
Okay, I bit the bullet today and replaced, at 50k, the oem Bridgestone Duellers on my '01 LS 2WD. Despite my better judgement, I cheaped out and bought Firestone Destination LE's in 255/70/16. Tire Rack user reviews indicate that this is one great tire for those of us who NEVER go off road.
BTW, the width / diameter increase over stock 245's may be small, but it IS noticeable. Unfortunately, so is the gearing change from my worn stock Duellers.
At around $500 with lifetime balance / rotation and a 30-day test drive guarantee, I figured I couldn't go wrong. More after I return from my Houston - New Orleans trip next week.
Feb 25, 2005 (10:30 am)
Per above, I'm looking at buying a 99 Trooper. I called the dealer to see if the previous owner had the tranny flushed, he said not here as he pulled up the records. He did however state that the manifold gaskets were replaced under warranty and, and fuel pressure regulator also done under warranty as it was hard starting. I then asked how much it was to service the tranny with a full on flush. He said $375!!! And they recommend it at every 15k miles. I was like WHAT?!?!?! That's crazy. Is that really true?????? He then said "it ain't cheap owning an Izuzu, most maintenance is expensive, but they have good 4x4 that's all serviceable". Seemed like a nice guy on the phone. I'm now wondering what to do...
Feb 25, 2005 (3:26 pm)
Seemed like a nice guy on the phone
He is a salesperson. It does have a good 4x4 system that is serviceable.
I would shop around for a better price. Also if you are going to get it flushed you want to have them "drop the pan and clean the filter".
#10530 of 11964 Wires in headliner 2001 Trooper-S
Feb 27, 2005 (7:00 pm)
I want to add a compass and maybe map lights.
Is the wire harness for the suff in the headliner in the fancy models of Trooper still there in the Trooper-S so if I make a hole in the headliner between the sun visors, I will find a power lead?
Feb 28, 2005 (1:55 pm)
I've enjoyed reading all the Trooper discussions over the years. But, sadly my Trooper engine bit the dust last weekend so my time is done. We were on a snowboarding trip and in the middle of Montana when suddenly a loud banging sound came from the engine. As the truck was losing power I pulled to the side of the road and that's when all the engine warning lights finally appeared. The Isuzu service rep said the crank sized and that the engine was shot. I had checked the oil before leaving from Minnesota and everything was fine. The Isuzu guy claims he has seen this before and that possibly the PVF was fouled causing rapid oil burn. I had 70k on the truck so the warranty was expired since I bought my truck slightly used (9500 miles). Needless to say, I was a long way from home and in a bind. And, paying $6k for a new engine was not going to happen. I was only able to negociate $2k for my truck while looking at a new 4Runner and Pathfinder. Long and the short is I came home with a Pathfinder. I hate buying vehicles on the spot w/o any time to research but that's the way it went.
I have to say that the Trooper was by far the best vehicle I ever owned. I had planned to run it easily to 150k or more. So much for that.
Good luck to all and make sure you keep an eye on that oil level
Feb 28, 2005 (3:31 pm)
I have a '00 Trooper LS, 2wd. with about 80,000. Last year I talked to Valvoline Instant Oil change shop about getting a full trans fluid replacement with that machine they have. He was going to do it that Saturday for about $70, I think their normal is about $89. I looked in my manual and the factory recommendation for normal service was 100,000 miles...so, at that time I punted. (I had about 70,000 at that time). I may have it done this year. I do have the 120 month, 120,000 warranty since I'm the original owner and I think there are still 2 Isuzu dealers in Memphis.
#10533 of 11964 Re: 2000 Trooper RIP [johnny_ringo]
Mar 01, 2005 (12:09 am)
My condolences, losing a loved Trooper is tough. Did you have it customized or pure stock?
1.5 years after I put OME suspension and Revo tires on my 1995 Trooper it was rear ended and totalled because the air bags set off. Mine was white with no wheel flairs. I was accustomed to people (my boss's boss included) telling me they liked my Trooper. I naturally found another 5 speed Trooper even though my wife wanted me to get a Saturn car. I just added the OME firm suspension to my 2001 Trooper, The Revos from my 1995 are down to the wear bars, so my next set or Revo tires is ordered LT245/75R16C 41 lbs. These are as wide as 255, as tall as 265/70, they have 15/32 tread depth and are light enough to perform well on road without killing my MPG. (I like the look of the 285 tires on my Trooper but not the loss of MPG, maybe someday I'll have two sets of tires saving the big ones for off road) I've been driving Troopers since the summer of 1984, something like 375K miles total so far.
My 1984 Trooper used oil 1qt/3000 miles at 30K that went up to 1qt./1000 miles at 201K. My 1995 never used a drop of oil that I could detect, except just a little while towing a heavy trailer. My 2001 uses some oil, but not enough to add between 3000 mile oil changes. I'm using Valvoline Maxlife Synthetic to make sure it lasts. I grew up with Valvoline as the family oil. My dad told me that it is more important to be consistent with the oil I choose than which brand of oil. I never used synthetic until about 1999 when I began towing for the first time. I got 201K from my 1984 on dyno oil, then sold it to buy a Trooper with air conditioning. http://www.valvoline.com/maxlife/
#10534 of 11964 Re: 2000 Trooper RIP [boxtrooper]
Mar 01, 2005 (7:37 am)
It was stock for the most part except for the poly bushings on the sway bar. Two months ago I put on Bridgestone Dueler Revo's, new brakes, and packed the bearings. I've used Mobil 1 since I bought the truck. Previous to the meltdown, I burned about 1 qt/1500 miles.