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#2106 of 9498 RX 300 sunroof wind noise / clicking sound
Jun 02, 2001 (6:41 am)
Just traded my GS400 for a new 2001 Lexus RX 300.
Love the vehicle except for noises in the roof.Has anyone noticed in the front of the closed sunroof a tendency to hear wind sounds when radio is off? My Navigator doesn't do this nor did the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Also occasionally when the sun is out and car is hot and first driven I hear a clicking or popping like sound coming from the rear roof of the car. Car just has 800 miles on it so it hasn't yet been in for service. Any and all feedback would be welcomed. Thanks in advance for your reply and advice. RedRob
#2107 of 9498 GY Integritys-I kinda like 'em
Jun 02, 2001 (7:15 am)
These tires have been a hot topic on this page since I got my RX in november. I was resigned to swapping them out and even got a great quote from a local tire store who was willing to give me nearly 50 bucks a tire if I had upgraded in december. But I went up to utah and I couldn't get the car to skid or the tires to spin in the icy ski resort parking lots. I have since driven to and from the east cost (from AZ), I drive fast on the interstates generally set cruise at 10 mph over the limit. Which means I'm doing 80-85. I've done countless maneuvers at even higher speeds, up to 110 and have never encountered any skittish behavior that could be considered "tire based". Most cars I've had get a little unstable around 95. A phenomenon I refer to as "that losing contact with the pavement feeling", probably a combination of inferior aerodynamics and the contact patch of the tire getting smaller. This does not happen with the RX, at these high speeds, the car seems to hunker down (probably due to the superior aerodynamics of the car) and is as stable as can be. The Integritys are, as nearly everybody agrees, a quiet and comfortable tire, they also seem to be wearing quite nicely. The service manger at Scottsdale Lexus told me that "Lexus puts a lot of thought into tire selection". I remember smiling increduously at the time. It is interesting to note that Accura, also uses the Integritys(primarily) on the MDX. After 10,000 miles, and I've pushed my car harder than most, I would counsel against swapping tires. Don't get caught up in tire snobbery!
#2108 of 9498 wind noise
Jun 02, 2001 (7:17 am)
I have no idea what "level" of wind noise you hear but I have two suggestions. One, even my 92 LS is somewhat quieter with the sun-shield pulled all the way forward so that is the same procedure I have used, by default, in the 2001 RX.
Two, you might experiment with the rear tilt-up position to see if you can find a quiet(er) position than the normally positioned one. When I first bought the LS I found the quietest position in this way and then adjusted the limit/stop mechanism for that "closed" position.
It also helps quite a bit if you keep the rubber seals well lubricated with some type of silicone "grease". I have a 78 911 Targa and even with new seals installed the grease helps cut down the wind noise.
The clicking noise is most likely the radio antenna extension motor "limit" being over-run. It's probably on the "feather-edge" and when the vehicle is hot it reaches the mechanical limit before the switch. My LS did that at first in the retraction mode until I pulled the whole assembly out and adjusted it.
#2109 of 9498 RX in November
Jun 02, 2001 (7:33 am)
2001 RX has VSC...
Now, first of all I have a pilot's license (Cessna 210) and I consider that my "butt" feel for loss of "traction" or "skidding" should be quite well developed.
Several years ago when I first drove an LS with VSC I was amazed that the VSC detected, and reacted, to "yawing" before my "butt" told me what was happening. Then about a year ago now I first drove a new 911 with PSM, same deal.
The only short-coming I can see about these new stability systems is that you almost have to be watching for the "active" indicator to come "on" in order to know that your "butt" has been "saved". THe indication time should be extended beyond the (mostly brief)period the system is active.
When I first bought my 2001 RX I went out and found a muddy country road and intentionally tried to bring the tail around. The VSC (braking) activity was so unobtrusive I felt that the system wasn't really working even though the indicator said it was active.
I have also seen articles in several magazines wherein experienced race drivers are turning in better times with these systems than without.
Being in electronic myself for all of my life I can well understand that a good sensitive accelerometer could detect yawing well before my "butt".
Now, why is it that these vehicles activate their ABS before detection of yaw from the VSC?
#2110 of 9498 Re: GY Integritys
Jun 02, 2001 (7:49 am)
"It is interesting to note that Accura, also uses the Integritys(primarily) on the MDX."
Yea, but they put Mich CTs on the upgraded Touring package! What does that tell you?
Like I said previously, if the tires work for you that's all that matters. As far as Lexus putting "thought" into tire slection, then why do some identically equipped vehicles come with BS's and some with GY's ??? I don't call that methodical planning.
Too many folks have noticed a dramatic handling increase after switching to Michelins. So even if the GYs are not bad, let's just say the Mich's are superior and leave it at that
#2111 of 9498 Love the RX300
Jun 02, 2001 (10:26 pm)
First off, thanks for all the great info on the RX. I have bought Fords all my life and this is new territory for me.
The lease on my wifes Explorer is ending and I have been busily looking for a new 2002 to replace the old one.
Well, she comes home one day and asks if I have seen the Lexus SUV. I had never looked or even considered buying a Japanese vehicle. She pressed me and knowing about Edmunds, I started doing research.
We called our local Lexus dealer, setup an appointment and drove off the lot with our new RX. What an awesome vehicle. It is so much more than an Explorer ever dreamed of being. The best part is that I got all that with only $50 a month more that an Explorer XLT with no options.
I doubt Ford will ever get me back.
Oh yes, I drove it home from the dealer, but haven't been able to get my wife out of the drivers set since.
Jun 03, 2001 (3:20 am)
spakchar, it's not so much that the GY are "bad" (the ones on my wife's 99 went about 31k and did extremely well in whatever weather we asked them to handle including the 2 region-disabling ice storms at Xmas and New Years here in Arkansas.
BUT: if you go back far enough (or wait around long enough) you'll read posts complaining about vehicles pulling with various fixes being tried at the dealers with variable success. My wife's car always pulled slightly to the right. Since it had gotten to be tire replacement time I lurked on this board for awhile to come up with likely candidates and deciced on Michelin CrossTerrains. Voila! Instant straight tracking, much more on center sensitivity (less than my GS430!), improved cornering, slightly less body roll (presumably due to less sidewall flex), much more aggressive and deep tread pattern (which presumably will have at least the tire life of the GY) but just as quiet with no discernable degradation in ride quality.
So, what's not to like? Well, the cost more than twice as much as the Goodyears but that's a problem only every couple of years. I just spent about 3 Michelins worth for a 4 Ball entry fee and it'll only last 4 days! The point here is simply that, in many cases (not just the tires), there are better alternatives to original equipment simply because manufacturers are generally building to a price rather than a standard. But the Goodyears are OK.......they had something like 28k and significantly less than 1/4" tread depth when they admirably handled our ice and snow. But there are better.
Jun 03, 2001 (10:17 am)
hi i have been reading everyone discussions and have found them most helpful. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on price ? I was at a lexus dealer on Saturday and the sale manager told me he would give me a cap cost price on a rx lease of about $38000. he insisted this was a no haggle price and that the amount was right there at invoice and could not be any lower. the questions are is cap cost and invoice the same, and if so why does all my research say invoice on the rx am looking at come to $35000. am on long island and am looking at a rx w\o navigation but with prem plus,hid, heated seats and wood wheel. any comments?
Jun 03, 2001 (10:54 am)
Has anyone heard any news on the 2002 model? I know there is no significant changes planned, but was just curious as to the minor changes. One of my biggest questions is, will the Silversport continue to be offered as a 2002 model?
Also, when do the new models generally show up on the lots?
Thanks for the input.
Jun 03, 2001 (2:24 pm)
The capitalized cost price is the price you negotiate minus any money you put down (cap cost reduction).
$38K?? I live on Long Island also and I bought my AWD Nav RX for $38.5K back in late January. I bet I can guess your dealer (Massapequa?). Whoever the dealer is they are trying pull the wool over your eyes.
I can get your configuration for about $37.3K without even breaking a sweat (carsdriect.com). In fact, I wouldn't pay more than $37k flat if I was you. I even bet you could do $36.7 if you found a lot with your color choice just sitting there.
There are more than 5 dealers within a 45 minute drive within the LI area, they all want your business if you know how to haggle a little bit.