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#6261 of 6477 Re: Its Time again [habitat1]
Jan 19, 2006 (4:51 pm)
I am in serch of the replacement of my 2001 MDX.
Even thou 06 is the last year for MDX before all new 2007 model, I was thinking I might take a advantage of good factory lease offer, so here I was in Acura dealership.
Checking closely the rear lights, they are just so untasteful to me, they looks more like cheesy after-market replacements that reminds me Honda civic that converted by 18 yr old boys.
So I went to a Honda dealer to check out Pilot.
Come on Honda/Acura....
Pilots do not have amber turn signal, just all reds, on top of that too much shiny chrome in the rear light housing- looks childish.Thou I like the new front a lot.
I wish 2007 MDX come out with solid ,simple and practical design in rear lights and in every other aspect of the design matters.
I may go check out the XC90 or should I wait a yr for 2007 MDX....
#6262 of 6477 Re: Its Time again [bikerking]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:21 pm)
"Checking closely the rear lights, they are just so untasteful to me, they looks more like cheesy after-market replacements that reminds me Honda civic that converted by 18 yr old boys."
There are a lot of good practical reasons to cross shop the MDX and XC90, but with all due respect, I don't think taillight design should be that high on your priority list. It's not like there is that much of a difference between the 2001 and 2005/6 MDX
#6263 of 6477 2006 vs. 2007
Jan 20, 2006 (11:27 am)
My lease on my 2002 mdx expires in October and I have started to get solicitations from dealers for new vehicles. I understand that the 2007 mdx will be a new model, but I have not seen anything about the changes which will be new in that model. I tried scrolling through the various forums, but did not see anything specific on this topic. Does anyone have information on the planned changes?
#6265 of 6477 Re: 2006 vs. 2007 [flevy]
Jan 20, 2006 (2:19 pm)
There is nothing official, yet.
You can be 90% certain Acura will give it SH-AWD and a more premium stereo (either ELS or the upgraded Bose they put in the RL). These are things which Acura has done consistently with their recent releases.
With the addition of HID lights to the RDX, you can probably bet on those for the MDX, as well.
It will use the new ACE body structure for improved safety.
It will cost a good deal more.
However, none of this has been confirmed. It's just stuff that makes sense given the direction they've been taking.
#6266 of 6477 Re: 2006 vs. 2007 [varmint]
Jan 20, 2006 (3:49 pm)
And a fear that some speculators have is that the next MDX will be bigger. Especially with the new RDX being positioned as the smaller SUV of the lineup (gives the MDX room to move up, since the RDX won't be THAT small). Some folks don't want a bigger MDX. Though some who want better third row seating or more cargo area would welcome that change.
But, this is purely speculation. As most know, Honda/Acura is notorious on not releasing information until the introduction is very close (and sometimes not even then!).
I will bet that the next MDX will be a big seller.
#6267 of 6477 Re: 2006 vs. 2007 [varmint]
Jan 20, 2006 (6:16 pm)
"It will cost a good deal more."
I doubt it. I am sure it will have a somewhat higher MSRP and early discounts might be hard to come by, but, as best I can tell, the SUV market has taken a bit of a hit. And oil is back pushing $70 a barrel.
Back when we were shopping a year ago, the new XC90 V8 was selling for near MSRP and fully loaded ones were at $50k+. Now you can get one in the DC area for about $40-43k. Similar drops with the Lexus GX470 and LR3.
My hunch is that the new MDX will carry about a $2k-$3k increase over the outgoing one. And even that's more of an increase than the 2004 TL was over the 2003 TLS. And those changes/upgrades/improvements were pretty dramatic.
Lastly, IMO, unless Acura completely separates the MDX from the Pilot and goes all out (ie. completely different platform, engine, drivetrain), I do not think a premium of over $8-10k over the Pilot is realistic, even with all of those RL goodies. I don't see a redesigned Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Nav or equivalent going for more than $34k.
Jan 20, 2006 (11:05 pm)
Would it be safe for me to assume that If the MDX is redesigned for the MY2007 that the Pilot will be redesigned for MY2008?
#6269 of 6477 Re: Its Time again [bikerking]
Jan 23, 2006 (7:16 pm)
I've been a loyal Honda fan, but things might get changed.
First of all, Honda/Acura seems very conservative. Take the Legend to RL transition story, does the alpha-numeric naming scheme play a big role here?
I'm now looking for a SUV and a AWD sedan. MDX is one of my choice for all its capabilities, but my faith is fading out as it's still a Halogen, no HID. As more and more non-luxury cars equipped w/ HID, I don't understand why can't they just offer it on MDX.
Pilot is nice but missing two things:
- amber rear turning signal
I'm very impressed by Nissan's approach, you can get HID on a Maxima even years ago.
There are more cars use red for rear turning, very dangerous! We need AMBER, YELLOW!
One excuse of using V6 3.5 on almost all Honda/Acura cars is, the fuel efficiency. Come on Honda, look at the newest 2007 Lexus L model, they get almost 30, why? A higher grade transmission, 8-speed.
And for a AWD sedan, what do Honda and Acura offer? Only ONE model. I'd take Infinity M35x, even Lexus IS 250 AWD, over the stupid pricy RL.
#6270 of 6477 Re: Its Time again [practical]
Jan 24, 2006 (7:18 pm)
I agree with a few of your points. As in Acura is a bit too conservative. I've posted my opinion that the RL should be a notch or three up on performance and not be just another ho-hum competitor in the boring to drive luxury sedan segment.
However, I disagree with a few points: Xenon lights would be nice, but should not be a deal killer on the MDX. It's halogen lights are very good as far as halogen lights go, considerably better than our previous Isuzu Trooper. By the way, the Maxima's HID lights suck compared to the xenons on TL, 911 or former S2000. Not all HID lights are created equal and the Maxima's are on the bottom rung of that ladder.
Given that I like to "drive" my higher grade transmission suggestion isn't a 7-8-9-10 speed automatic. It's a short throw crisp 6-speed manual like Acura (finally) put in the TL. I get 28-30+ mpg at 70-75 mph on the highway, and actually have a car that is fun to drive, rather than a cure for insomnia, as is the Lexus LS. My RL target would be the BMW 550i 6-speed.
Sorry, even though I was born and raised in snow country, I think the RL is one too many standard AWD sedans for Acura. I have no objection to Honda/Acura offering AWD as an option on the RL and even TL or Accord. But the RL is a 4,000 lb non-super handling sedan. And even the best in class handling 530i suffers when you throw an extra 300+ lbs into it's chassis and drive train and turn it into a 530ix.
If you live in serious snow country, an AWD sedan is not an SUV replacement, period. If you don't live in serious snow country, an AWD sedan costs you a lot of extra gas, maintenance and potential repairs over the life of the car. And if you like the feel of a nimble handling car, AWD is a significant weight detriment. A good set of snow tires on a RWD 550i will outperform the RL with it's stock tires. Especially if the driver knows what they are doing.