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#41 of 6469 Thanks jdford by luvsuv Nov 21, 2000 (10:14 am)
for the detailed instruction regarding the body side molding! Great job!
#42 of 6469 Dealer experience by sfaridi Nov 21, 2000 (3:28 pm)
I walked away from my MDX due to the following reasons and dealer attitude at McGrath Acura of Countryside, IL: 1. Dealer insisted on charging sales tax on MSRP+destination+documentation fee. I thought when you lease you only pay sales tax on payments. 2. Dealer insisted on capitalizing all fee and taxes. 3. Luxary tax was calculated on capitalized price means I was paying luxary tax on sales tax and fee like acquisition etc 4. Dealer constantly reminded me that if this deal didnt go through he can sell it for above MSRP no problem. 5. Finance manager was reluctant to go over the lease agreement in detail. Has anyone else experience this kind of arrogance and greed?
#43 of 6469 sfarida by gipple Nov 21, 2000 (4:00 pm)
Good for you. Tell that dealer to go F _ _ _ off! I know that if you make many, many calls you will find an MDX due for delivery that is not claimed. I did. I called 30 dealers along the east coast and found one in CT that I picked up 3 - 4 weeks later. There is no need to give in to the nasty, rude dealers when you can find a reasonable one that perhaps you deal with.
#44 of 6469 MDX-Quality? by brentf008 Nov 21, 2000 (4:11 pm)
Hey All This is my first post. My dad wants tog et my mom a Luxo SUV for Cristmas. we are looking at the ML320, the 3.0i X5, RX300, and of Course the tricked out MDX. My dad is wary of buying the MDX because this is it's first year on the market. But isn;t it true that the MDX is based on the reliable and somewaht proven Honda Ody platform? Has anyone who owns an MDX seen any build quality problems or other issues on there vehicle? I looked at the Lexus, and I thought the interior was of much higher quality than the MDX. Am I right in thinking this? It's not even the Faux woood trim that bothers me... just the leather quality and overall look of plastics in the cabin. I stll like the Acura though... also the Lexus dealer seemed more pretentious... less inviting and more stuffy. Well I'd ove to here your experiences with your new MDX, bad or good. Anyone who has the 6 CD 8 speaker Bose system I'd like to here your opinions on that to. Thanks! Brent
#45 of 6469 Having trouble ... by lauriebr Nov 21, 2000 (4:17 pm)
Our silver/touring MDX isn't even here yet but we're not having a good experience. DelRay Acura in FL sold us the car, explaining that they "ship to the Boston area all the time." They made it sound easy, but it's been a nightmare. We bought the car a week ago but we have no paperwork from the dealer, just FAXes (they keep saying the woman who handles the paperwork is "out today"). The insurance company doesn't seem to know how to handle an out-of-state purchase and insists they need to see a title to insure the car. The bank holds the title since we have a loan -- which we keep explaining, but we can't get anyone from the insurance company with a brain on the phone. The registry won't register the car without proof of insurance. DelRay Acura seems to be clueless when we appeal to them for help. So ... the car arrives tomorrow but we have no insurance, no registration and no plates. How are we supposed to get it home? Can anyone explain how this is supposed to work? People must buy cars out of state all the time -- there must be an orderly process to go through. Given our experience with Del Ray so far, we're really worried about what the car will be like. What if the mileage doesn't match what's on the sales agreement? What if something else is wrong? We didn't want to wait until March to get the MDX from a local dealer but if we'd know how awful this would be, I think we would have waited. Laurie
#46 of 6469 Leasing Leasing Leasing by jeffmust2 Nov 21, 2000 (4:20 pm)
(sfaridi) 1. Sales tax - this differs from state-to-state, but, in general, you're right - tax is usually paid monthly on top of your payment amount, not on the unpaid residual. Of course, if you buy the vehicle at end-of-lease, then you're going to be hit with the additional sales tax. Your DMV should be able to answer this question or maybe a CPA. 2. Dealer insisted on capitalizing all fee and taxes. Clever - this allows dealer to bundle everything into hidden calculations so he can charge all kinds of ridiculous fees that might not be disclosed in the final paperwork - they just might result in a higher lease cap cost, on top of which the dealer will get a "rebate" (more commonly called a "kickback") from the leasing company. 3. Luxury tax was calculated on capitalized price means I was paying luxury tax on sales tax and fee like acquisition etc. I'm not sure what amount the luxury percentage is applied against but I doubt it's factored on sales tax and garbage fees; again, check the federal government website on this tax. 4. Dealer constantly reminded me that if this deal didnt go through he can sell it for above MSRP no problem. Then why is he wasting his time with you at a lower price? Simple - the lease he's quoting has MORE PROFIT than $2K over MSRP! 5. Finance manager was reluctant to go over the lease agreement in detail. I'll bet! I believe that additional Fed Government disclosure requirements on lease agreements will take effect 1-1-2001 but that won't help you now. Your best bet is to calculate your lease from the acura.com website: Select Acquire, Cost Comparison, Lease Calculator, Your MDX Model, term of lease, # miles per year (12k or 15k), $$ money or trade-in value - and, presto! Reasonable lease numbers from American Honda Finance Corp. Last time I checked, their money factor was .00370 - to get the real interest rate, just multiply a money factor X 2400 - or 8.88% in this case. If you need some additional help, email me at jeffmustaol.com.
#47 of 6469 Illinois & Texas: Don't Lease Here! by jeffmust2 Nov 21, 2000 (4:39 pm)
Did some lease research and found out that Illinois and Texas are unique states when it comes to leasing automobiles: 1. You DO pay sales tax on the whole amount (cap cost), not just the monthly payment amount. 2. Even Worse Department: If you buy the vehicle off for the residual after the lease expires - you get to pay sales tax AGAIN!!! Now who in their right mind would lease a vehicle in those two states? Why not drive to a different state for a MDX lease deal? Check out this site for some good tips on leasing and regular purchase deals:  http://www.carbuyingtips.com/lease.htm JM
#48 of 6469 William by cotmc Nov 21, 2000 (4:46 pm)
I'm sorry that Client Services seems to be less helpful for you then they were for me. The customer rep that I spoke to was Larry Lenzie (sp?), and he told me my field rep was Pat Thomas. Maybe you can ask to speak with Larry?
#49 of 6469 Dennett by cotmc Nov 21, 2000 (5:13 pm)
Yep, the Benz brand sure seems to have good resale value. I'm not quite sure why they retain as much resale value as they do, though. It can't just be the safety aspect (as evidenced by Volvo's resale numbers). From all I've seen and read, neither the E-Class or C-Class sedans have outstanding reliability, and the M-Class reliability has definitely been sub-par. And it's kind of a joke that the certified Mercedes used cars (cars with the "Starmark" certification) add only 1 year additional warranty coverage, considering the less than stellar reliability reports. Compare that to BMW, Lexus, or even Audi certified cars. Acura has had outstanding reliability across their entire line of vehicles after dumping the SLX and the Vigor. They appear to be on the right track now with improving the value, performance, and resale values of their cars, with the RL possibly being the exception to that trend for resale value. We can only guess about the MDX, but with production on the MDX being low, initial customer feedback being very positive, and the MDX winning almost every luxury SUV comparison, there is some optimism that the MDX will have good resale value. The one characteristic that may adversely affect MDX resale value is that Acura does not have quite the marquee luxury image already associated with BMW, Benz, or Lexus. By the way, I agree with wmquan. If you see MDX's sitting on dealer lots, why don't you post the names of the dealers in here to help out other prospective MDX buyers?
#50 of 6469 Lauriebr - out of state purchase by filterking Nov 21, 2000 (5:36 pm)
I live in MA and bought my car in NH. here are the steps i went through 1. Paid cash , completed paperwork at dealer 2. Took the papers to my insurance agent for stamping with an effective date of next business day 3. Took the papers to DMV and paid taxes and rgn fees. Gor the plates 4. DMV sent the TITLE to my home address 2-3 weeks later Hope this helps.

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