Last post on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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#7386 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [corvette]
Feb 18, 2013 (5:44 pm)
I don't think those Kumho come in my tire size unfortunately, as I've read great reviews.
Also, I forgot to mention the Civic only has 53k miles on it. So, it'll be running for quite some time and I plan on driving it for years. I just don't know if Michelin is necessarily worth $120+ more than the Pirelli P4.
#7387 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [corvette]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:45 pm)
That model Kumho is what we have on my son's '87 E30.... 205/55-15 on 15 X 7 wheels....
Only about 3K miles on them so far, but I got into a nice little 4-wheel drift with them the other day...
We bought them, because the place we bought his new wheels had a special on them.... The whole set came mounted and balanced, and we just bolted them on... Turns out, we really like the tires, so it all worked out...
#7388 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:47 pm)
I like spirited driving... even in a Civic.. Those Michelins might be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but you could still dislike the driving characteristics..
I'm no fan of LRR tires... less friction = less grip, in my mind... An '02 Civic is already a gas mileage champ.. the tires aren't going to help that much..
Read the tests and reviews on TireRack and make sure you are getting the kind of tire you want...
#7389 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [kyfdx]
Feb 18, 2013 (6:05 pm)
That's true. I averaged about 33-34+ in mostly highway driving thus far. My mom's 2010 Corolla gets about 28-29 average, 32 highway. And the Civic is getting that kind of mileage with Michelin Pilot Exaltos on it, the exact opposite of LRR tires. The tires need replacing as one pair is 6 years old and the other is 8 years old and they're not holding air well...
I'm mostly looking for solid wear (50k real world tread life, I don't expect to really get 80k miles out of them), decent wet traction (ie they aren't spinning when accelerating from a stop, even when you go slow!), soaks up bumps around town/highway well and if it can improve my MPG even better...
#7390 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
Feb 18, 2013 (9:35 pm)
If you continue to put few miles on the Civic, tread wear may not be as much of a concern (many tire and vehicle manufacturers recommend checking or replacing tires after 6-10 years due to age deterioration). Just something to think about.
Kumho has some other tires that rate well on Tire Rack. I would consider any of them, as well. Also, you might compare the price with shipping at Tire Rack to Discount Tire Direct's price. Tire Rack has a better review system, but I've bought my last couple of sets from Discount Tire because they had lower pricing.
#7391 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [corvette]
Feb 18, 2013 (10:11 pm)
I was considering the Kumho KR21, but for a few dollars more the Pirelli P4 get better reviews overall. Right now I think it's down to the Pirelli P4 $421 installed or the Michelin Energy Saver A/S $560. I know the Michelin has higher initial price, but I'm wondering if the superior gas mileage might recoup the difference over the life of the tire...?
I'm trying to price out the Cooper GFE tire at some local shops as well.
There's the Continental Procontact w Ecoplus that Discount Tire will install right in the middle price-wise at $490, but they're not sure if they'll be able to get order them. I'd probably spring for this tire if DT can get them. Better wet traction than the Energy Savers and better gas mileage than the Pirelli with similar real world tread life is a winner in my book.
The Yokohama Avid Envigor mentioned a little earlier sounds like a solid tire, but I've read several reviews of the tire lasting only 30k miles. For a 60k mile tire I'd hope to at least get 45-50k out of them. I don't know if it's the tire or the driving style making them wear like that.