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#7381 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:04 pm)
Way too much money to spend on a 10-yr-old car in that size...
I just put Yokohamas on an Acura Legend, and spent $100 less than that, for a bigger size... ..
Yokohama Avid Envigor...
#7382 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [kyfdx]
Feb 18, 2013 (5:24 pm)
The Envigor sounds like a good tire, but I've read a lot of reviews that say they get loud after like 20k miles.
Yeah, the Michelin was actually like $560 installed at Costco. I'm pricing out some Coopers (GFE, Lifeliner) etc. I think $425 for Pirelli P4 is a good price. I don't think it'd be worth getting the Discount Tire extended warranty for irreparable damage to the tires for another like $50, right?
#7383 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:32 pm)
I never buy extra insurance... but, that's just me..
I've already sold the Acura, so I'm not going to find out about the noise.. Just thought it was a pretty good tire for the money...
I like name brand tires, but those Michelins seem a little too pricy... If you aren't feeling the Yokohamas, check out Continental ContiProContact or Kumho
Ecsta LX Platinum. I generally like Pirellis, but no experience with the P4...
#7384 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [kyfdx]
Feb 18, 2013 (5:36 pm)
Yeah, Yokohamas seem pretty good for the $ for sure.
I mean, I don't mind shelling out $ for quality tires as I plan on driving this car for quite some time. $560 just seems really steep for a 10+ year old car with 15" tires....I guess tire prices have gone up, because I was able to get a set of Michelins a year ago for $430 on my mom's Corolla at Costco...in a larger tire size...
#7385 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [kyfdx]
Feb 18, 2013 (5:40 pm)
I've been pleased with the P4 Four Seasons on my Altima. They are prone to irregular edge wear (which will cause noise if left unchecked) and need to be cross-rotated to try to even that out.
I was extremely impressed with the Kumho Ecsta 4X tires I had on the BMW (best rain tire I've ever had), and will probably look at a set of Kumhos the next time I need tires.
#7386 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [corvette]
Feb 18, 2013 (5:44 pm)
I don't think those Kumho come in my tire size unfortunately, as I've read great reviews.
Also, I forgot to mention the Civic only has 53k miles on it. So, it'll be running for quite some time and I plan on driving it for years. I just don't know if Michelin is necessarily worth $120+ more than the Pirelli P4.
#7387 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [corvette]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:45 pm)
That model Kumho is what we have on my son's '87 E30.... 205/55-15 on 15 X 7 wheels....
Only about 3K miles on them so far, but I got into a nice little 4-wheel drift with them the other day...
We bought them, because the place we bought his new wheels had a special on them.... The whole set came mounted and balanced, and we just bolted them on... Turns out, we really like the tires, so it all worked out...
#7388 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 18, 2013 (5:47 pm)
I like spirited driving... even in a Civic.. Those Michelins might be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but you could still dislike the driving characteristics..
I'm no fan of LRR tires... less friction = less grip, in my mind... An '02 Civic is already a gas mileage champ.. the tires aren't going to help that much..
Read the tests and reviews on TireRack and make sure you are getting the kind of tire you want...
#7389 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [kyfdx]
Feb 18, 2013 (6:05 pm)
That's true. I averaged about 33-34+ in mostly highway driving thus far. My mom's 2010 Corolla gets about 28-29 average, 32 highway. And the Civic is getting that kind of mileage with Michelin Pilot Exaltos on it, the exact opposite of LRR tires. The tires need replacing as one pair is 6 years old and the other is 8 years old and they're not holding air well...
I'm mostly looking for solid wear (50k real world tread life, I don't expect to really get 80k miles out of them), decent wet traction (ie they aren't spinning when accelerating from a stop, even when you go slow!), soaks up bumps around town/highway well and if it can improve my MPG even better...
#7390 of 7392 Re: Firestone Destination Tires [windgrace]
Feb 18, 2013 (9:35 pm)
If you continue to put few miles on the Civic, tread wear may not be as much of a concern (many tire and vehicle manufacturers recommend checking or replacing tires after 6-10 years due to age deterioration). Just something to think about.
Kumho has some other tires that rate well on Tire Rack. I would consider any of them, as well. Also, you might compare the price with shipping at Tire Rack to Discount Tire Direct's price. Tire Rack has a better review system, but I've bought my last couple of sets from Discount Tire because they had lower pricing.