Tires, tires, tires

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#4583 of 7006 Re: capriracer [marsha7] by capriracer Mar 25, 2005 (5:03 am)
Replying to: marsha7 (Mar 24, 2005 7:53 pm) A couple of thoughts: The idea of someone hitting a "homerun" - getting wealthy - because someone else had a tragic thing happen to them...Mmmmmm I also wonder why many of these cases go as far as they do. Based on the many tires I've examined, I've seen very, very few failed tires that had "defects" in them, and fewer still where the "defect" caused the failure. But my impression is that much of the litigation revolves around stuff that should never get litigated - improper repairs, improper maintenance, etc. No question that tragic things can happen when a tire fails. But when a manufacturer says "Don't do this!" and folks do it anyway, well..... Like "string" repairs. There have been many Internet discussions about this subject, but the folks that make them and the folks that do the repairs aren't held accountable for the consequences. Like blaming the Coke truck for the drunken driver. (OK....I feel better now.) Anyway, I hope my contributions have helped the situation and brought better understanding of the technology. Replies to this message: steve_ (Mar 25, 2005 7:25 am) imidazol97 (Mar 25, 2005 8:54 am)
#4584 of 7006 Re: capriracer [capriracer] by steve_ HOST Mar 25, 2005 (7:25 am)
Replying to: capriracer (Mar 25, 2005 5:03 am) Heh, if I get hurt I guess I'm going to trust Bob to look after my interests better than the repair shop or Coca-cola. I'd ask what a string repair is but we're getting even further afield from tires. Steve, Host
#4585 of 7006 '04 CR-V with 2005 CR-V 16" ALLOYS ?? by wen Mar 25, 2005 (7:52 am)
I have a 2004 CR-V EX that came with 15" alloys and the cursed Bridgestone Dueler tires. I'm primarily looking for some "answers" concerning CR-V wheels. I've always stayed away from "after market" wheels because they usually have offsets and widths that are quite different than stock wheels which unfortunately result in clearance problems. With that in mind (and knowing I will soon purchase new tires) I just purchased four new 16 x 6 1/2" genuine O.E.M. Honda Alloy Wheels (Dealer take-offs from a brand new 2005 CR-V). These 16" wheels have a 50mm offset, the same offset as the (2004) 15" wheels, but besides the 1" bigger diameter they are 1/2" wider. Obviously this 1/2" width is divided equally making the '05 wheel 1/4" wider toward the inside of the vehicle as well as 1/4" wider toward outside. I am assuming (and hoping) that the '05 suspension is exactly the same as the '04 so no clearance problems will arise. Now, let's complicate this a bit.... I also have five brand new (absolutely gorgeous) 5-spoke Acura alloys (also Dealer take-offs from a brand new '03 TL) that I have been saving for a couple of years now. They are 16" x 6 1/2" BUT.... they have a 55mm offset. In theory these will bolt up to my CR-V but are 5mm (about .19") more offset towards the "inside" of the CR-V. Here in Florida, I have seen some pretty wild tire/wheel combinations on CR-V's (new and old) but have never inspected any "up close" or spoken with their owners about suspension mods and/or clearance problems. Has anyone tried a 16" X 6 1/2" wheel with a 55mm offset on a CR-V (2004 w/stock suspension) yet ???? Replies to this message: kyfdx (Mar 25, 2005 7:53 am) wen (Mar 26, 2005 5:35 am) kyfdx (Mar 27, 2005 6:43 am) and 6 more...
#4586 of 7006 16" wheels.. by kyfdx HOST Mar 25, 2005 (7:53 am)
Replying to: wen (Mar 25, 2005 7:52 am) I'll tell you what everyone told me... "Bring it in, and we'll put it on the car and try it out". The guys at collegehillshonda.com sell Pilot wheels for CRVs... You might give them a call, as they have some experience, and might be able to give you advice.. they are very friendly and helpful.. regards, kyfdx Replies to this message: wen (Mar 26, 2005 5:35 am) kyfdx (Mar 27, 2005 6:43 am) wen (Mar 28, 2005 7:52 am) and 5 more...
#4587 of 7006 Re: capriracer [capriracer] by imidazol97 Mar 25, 2005 (8:54 am)
Replying to: capriracer (Mar 25, 2005 5:03 am) What are "string repairs"? I assume it's a repair to tires so it would be on topic.
#4588 of 7006 Re: "String" Repairs by capriracer Mar 25, 2005 (3:20 pm)
"String" repairs are sometimes applied to "plug" type repairs, except that they are loaded with fibers, which in the opinion of many in the industry is just a leak looking for a place to happen.
#4590 of 7006 RE: 16" wheels.. by kyfdx by wen Mar 26, 2005 (5:35 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 25, 2005 7:53 am) Thanks for the "link" kyfdx .... I went to the College Hills Honda web site, checked out their "upgrade wheels/tires" for my CR-V and then called them up. WOW, they are actually using Honda Pilot 16" x 6 1/2" Alloy rims, but the Pilot rims have a 45mm OFFSET, which means that they are 10mm "further away" from the inner (suspension) part of the vehicle than the Acura (55mm offset) alloys I wanted to use and 5mm "further away" than any O.E.M. CR-V wheel. All CR-V wheels have a 50mm offset. The real determining factor is the BACKSET of a wheel, that is the true distance from the mounting surface to the end of the alloy "rim" (or lip) that would actually be closest to any suspension parts. F.Y.I the '04 CR-V 15 x 6 alloys have a 5 1/2" backset, the '05 CR-V 16 x 6.5 alloys have a 5 3/4" backset and the '03 Acura TL 16 x 6.5 (55mm) have a 6" backset. The idea of "mount it and try it" is the BEST way, but unfortunately it's something that is just not feasable for me. I was hoping that someone reading this has already gone thru the "Hell" of this chore and could provide correct results .... and I guess that really was College Hills Honda. By the way .... they guarantee that 235/60 R16 tires will fit '03 - '05 CR-V's (with stock suspensions) with NO problems when using the 16" Pilot Alloys !! They worked very closely with a local tire shop and have determined these tires are the "best fit" for replacing the stock 205/70 R15's to match "revs per mile" and similar diameter. Thanks again for the "link" !! Replies to this message: kyfdx (Mar 27, 2005 6:43 am) wen (Mar 28, 2005 7:52 am) kyfdx (Mar 28, 2005 7:55 am) and 4 more...
#4591 of 7006 A caveat.. by kyfdx HOST Mar 27, 2005 (6:43 am)
Replying to: wen (Mar 26, 2005 5:35 am) I know they sell the 235/60-16, but actually the 215/60-16 or 225/60-16 are closer matches for the '02-'04 CR-V's stock size of 205/70-15.. Now the '05 is a different story, because it has a "taller" stock size... All that said, at least they have some real-world testing.. regards, kyfdx Replies to this message: wen (Mar 28, 2005 7:52 am) kyfdx (Mar 28, 2005 7:55 am) wen (Mar 28, 2005 8:16 am) and 3 more...