Tires, tires, tires

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#4559 of 7006 Re: capriracer [marsha7] by driftracer Mar 20, 2005 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (Mar 20, 2005 5:30 pm) If it helps, and this is NOT a solicitation...I'm an automotive expert witness, and I'll gladly testify that your tire guy doesn't know beans about tires and having a tire at 38 psi didn't cause a tire failure. I'm totally amazed at some of the incredibly uneducated things that come out of the mouths of some shop techs and managers, especially at chain shops like Midas, Meineke, and Pep Boys...pretty danged scary. Both my sons work at Pep Boys in parts, it's a pretty decent job for a high school senior and a college freshman, discounts on stuff, decent pay, but the stories they come home with would curl your hair. Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Mar 20, 2005 5:52 pm)
#4560 of 7006 Re: capriracer [driftracer] by imidazol97 Mar 20, 2005 (5:52 pm)
Replying to: driftracer (Mar 20, 2005 5:43 pm) I have run tires at 3-4 pounds above car recommended pressures for decades. Thirty-five has been my max pressure cold. When the tires are driven the temperature increases which increases the pressure at about 1 pound pressure for each 10 degrees Fahrenheit. So that pressure goes above 35 pounds. However, because of the increased pressure, the tires don't heat as much and and the pressure don't rise as much. If they are lower in pressure to start with, and driven at speeds and with loads such as 4 in the car, the tires heat up more, which adds more pressure which slows the increase in heating due to the additional pressure. My point is starting with the higher pressure isn't going to end up with 3-4 pounds additional at highway speeds and 3 adults and lotsa luggage and ice cooler chest for refreshment on the road because of the reduction in extra heating.
#4561 of 7006 Shoot, I run 45-50 lbs in tires rated by driftracer Mar 20, 2005 (6:02 pm)
at a max of 44 when I autocross, depending on what my tire paint shows me, and that's on vehicles rated at 28-35 psi by the manufacturer. I'd have a serious blast providing testimony for the argument that 3 psi caused problems. Heating tires up enough to have tread chunk off, while at 50 psi, and driving 70-80 mph through corners, and never a failure in 18 years...please.
#4562 of 7006 Re: capriracer [marsha7] by tidester HOST Mar 20, 2005 (6:44 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (Mar 20, 2005 5:30 pm) but can you see my dilemma??? If you're that concerned then adhere strictly to the written recommendations of the manufacturer. tidester, host
#4563 of 7006 Ziex-512 - poor treadwear? by mbuster25 Mar 20, 2005 (8:47 pm)
Hello Everyone: I own an ES300, oem Michelin MXV4 (not MXV4+), replaced with Ziex-512s. The Ziexs in my size at 205-65R15 are suppose to be warrantied for 60K, but at my rate, I will only see 25-27K down to 2/32. Anyone else getting poor treadwear with Ziex-512 or can recommend a tire better than it? Thank you
#4564 of 7006 Re: Tire Burst Pressure by imidazol97 by capriracer Mar 21, 2005 (4:09 am)
"a tire dealer (a supposed expert)" I think most tire dealers try to be helpful, and will try to answer your question, even if it means "making up" an answer. I don't think you can call them "experts", in much the same way you can't call vehicle dealers "car experts". Each of these have some knowledge and expertise, but there is a limit to their expertise I can only say that I'm a lot closer to the folks who write that stuff on the sidewall. But there is some new information that wasn't in your earlier posts - Do you say you are a Pl lawyer - as in "Product Liability"? If so, then you know about "Daubert" and that ought to clue you in. Hope this helps.
#4565 of 7006 Personal Injury. by driftracer Mar 21, 2005 (4:19 am)

#4566 of 7006 Max Performance Tires by kschac Mar 21, 2005 (9:29 am)
I have a 2004 BMW 545i with sport package - 18 inch BMW wheels. I am looking to replace the rather uncomfortable OEM Dunlop run flats with a set of max performance summer tires. I am deciding between the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 and the Michelin PS2's. Tire sizes are 245/40-18 (front) and 275/35-18 (rear). While high performance is a priority, I would be willing to sacrifice the last degree of performsnce for some enhanced comfort. I live in the NYC area and we have a lot of potholes! Any thoughts or suggestions? Replies to this message: kschac (Mar 27, 2005 7:16 pm) rwoods (Apr 19, 2005 10:28 am)
#4567 of 7006 Data Points by ruking1 Mar 21, 2005 (9:53 am)
Hard choice, I have seen very high ratings for the Michelin PS2's. But I have to tell you I am also excited by the GY Eagle F1 GS-D3. The D3's seem to balance out a lot of the negatives of the all out max performance tires like the GY Eagle F1 SuperCars. SC's are notoriously sticky, but because of max performance, dry traction design; suffer in the WET department and comfort department. So my perspective is from three data points: 265-40-17, 295-35-18's GY Eagle F1 SuperCars. These were replaced with Toyo Proxes T1S's due to the fact, D3's do not currently come in the above stock sizes. Also with Michelin's Pilot Sports A/S's 205/50-17 on a BMW 330i.
#4568 of 7006 I believe that by krzyss Mar 21, 2005 (11:50 am)
Car&Driver put F1 GS-D3 on their long term Evo and they were not happy. Krzys Replies to this message: ruking1 (Mar 21, 2005 12:12 pm)