Tires, tires, tires

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#4533 of 7006 Michelin MXV4 by imidazol97 Mar 02, 2005 (7:49 am)
I've noticed the shorter mileage or lack of stick in Honda discussions where these or a variation are original equipment. Original may not be the same as a service tire. Friend has one of the versions of MXV4 on Pacifica. They seem to be going to do just fine on mileage for him. He drives normally. No hotrodding but does corner the thing more than I would. Michelin life: XH4 on 93 LeSabre only gave 110 and 100 K miles. Put two used tires on and traded the thing with 150K on it. (My wife made me trade; it ran fine.) X-Ones on 98 LeSabre have 80K and have 4-5/32nds. Siping is gone and lost lot of snow traction for pull. Directional control still fine. Put on 2 Harmonys. Will replace two more next fall. If I hotrodded like my 67 Mustang, I only got 80K out of X tires. ********* I'm sure there are better traction tires or lower-priced higher quality tires. I just buy what has served me well. As for cheaper: I'm too poor to be able to buy cheap stuff. I want quality that stays round and doesn't cause balance problems and that wears well.
#4534 of 7006 Bang for the Buck by ruking1 Mar 02, 2005 (8:43 am)
Well for sure cheaper is not always better and neither is more expensive always better. In the case of the oem MXV4's, my lowly oem Goodyear's look to be able to go at least 85,000 miles vs the more normal Michelins of 34,000 miles. Needless to say replacement price is 72 vs 108. So to me, the key is to: separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Mar 02, 2005 9:08 am)
#4535 of 7006 Re: Bang for the Buck [ruking1] by imidazol97 Mar 02, 2005 (9:08 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 02, 2005 8:43 am) >In the case of the oem MXV4's, There are different versions of MXV4s from what I pick up from the Honda discussion. I wonder if some are stickier, softer rubber than others. AND OEM stuff may be a different rubber from the tire sold at the brand store because the manufacturer specified that the tire meet certain specs. I had oem wide ovals from Firestone long ago that last 12K miles. If I've gleaned wrong information about that, I belief Drift has been in the business or anyone else can correct me.
#4536 of 7006 They make 3 or 4 MWV4s, by driftracer Mar 02, 2005 (9:12 am)
depending on the speed rating and treadwear you're looking for. OEM tires are made to weird specs, mostly for cost reasons, and I never recommend getting an exact copy of the OEM tires - perhaps the same brand and model, if you've liked them, but cross-shop the others by that manufacturer to make sure treadwear, traction, speed rating, and load range are EXACTLY what you want, not what the car manufacturer decided would fit THEIR bill and meet the lowest bid.
#4537 of 7006 tire 225/55/R17 NEED HELP by paulrl Mar 06, 2005 (3:41 pm)
My 2005 lexus LS430 with Dunlop 5000M,225/55/R17,drive not smoot,small vibration at steering wheel Any suggestion? Mic.MXV4 will help? or should I change to a thicker tires My car has only 1500 miles with premium package Please help Paul Replies to this message: capriracer (Mar 08, 2005 2:45 pm)
#4538 of 7006 Re: tire 225/55/R17 NEED HELP [paulrl] by capriracer Mar 08, 2005 (2:45 pm)
Replying to: paulrl (Mar 06, 2005 3:41 pm) Since your vehicle is new, take it back to the dealer. It might be a lost wheel weight, but whatever the problem is, they should be able to fix it without cost to you. Hope this helps.
#4540 of 7006 Low rolling resistance by corvette Mar 12, 2005 (12:10 pm)
Dad's 2003 Beetle GL TDI needs new tires. He has 105,000 miles on the OEM Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus tires. One tire was effectively replaced at 20,000 miles when we put the spare wheel on due to a bent rim (steel rims). Almost all highway driving accounts for the long life. He wants another low rolling resistance tire, as TDI owners have reported a loss of (gasp!) 1-3 MPG with conventional tires. The Beetle TDI specifies 205/55 R16 tires with a weight rating of 91 and speed rating of H. What other low rolling resistance tires should he consider? Thanks.
#4541 of 7006 TDI shoes by ruking1 Mar 12, 2005 (12:24 pm)
TDI owner here. The 105k miles figure is nearer the higher end if posters are to be believed. Most peole seem to get 40-50k. As you know there are three oem tires, in addition; Continental and the GY LS-H. I have the GY LS-H. at 49,000 miles it is on projected target to go to 130-140k. Actually I would be more than thrilled to get 100k. Most owners would rank order the oem tires Michelin, Continental, GY's. If cost effective is a criteria then run the cost per mile for rubber. If you are considering a tire that will probably get 1-3 mpg less, work that factor in also. The other thing to consider is NONE of the oem tires (including aftermarket oem replacements) have a mileage warranty. If you contrast that with, say a BFG Traction TA, it is cheaper and has a 60k mileage warranty and performs better. You almost literally have a plethora of choices. It is even more staggering that that if you want to go to higher performance tires or even go down to a T rating!! My top picks in the H rating 1 BFG Traction TA 2 Toyo TPT 3 Yokohama Avid H4S 4 Bridgestone RE 950. Replies to this message: corvette (Mar 12, 2005 1:03 pm) ruking1 (Mar 13, 2005 8:03 am) corvette (Mar 13, 2005 9:41 am) and 3 more...
#4542 of 7006 Re: TDI shoes [ruking1] by corvette Mar 12, 2005 (1:03 pm)
Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 12, 2005 12:24 pm) I should have mentioned--cost effective is not the criteria, he just doesn't want to lose any fuel economy by going with a cheaper or higher performance tire. Nutty, I know, but it's not my car. I know there are tons of alternatives, but how does one tell if a given tire is considered low rolling resistance or not? Replies to this message: ruking1 (Mar 13, 2005 8:03 am) corvette (Mar 13, 2005 9:41 am) ruking1 (Mar 17, 2005 12:28 pm) and 2 more...