Tires, tires, tires

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#4503 of 7006 Tires for 2000 Neon ES by mz6greyghost Feb 08, 2005 (2:04 pm)
I'm looking to replace my wife's awful Goodyear Eagle LS tires (185/60-15) with something that will last longer than just 15k miles. Due to the limited tires in that size, I'm looking to upgrade to 195/60-15. We live in upstate NY, with a lot of snowy and rainy days, and she drives aggressively. 1. Tirerack recommends Bridgestone Potenza G009. Are they great tires for these conditions? I can't go wrong with the price, and I'm leaning toward them at this point... 2. Does anyone (besides Goodyear) carry 185/60-15s? I'm looking toward name brands, and NOT Futura or Republic etc. 3. Any other Neon drivers out there with this predicament? What did you do? Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Feb 08, 2005 2:40 pm) yurakm (Feb 08, 2005 3:08 pm) andys120 (Feb 08, 2005 4:40 pm) kankokuonly (Feb 11, 2005 3:30 pm) and 1 more... dialm4speed (Mar 02, 2005 2:24 am) mz6greyghost (Mar 02, 2005 7:21 am)
#4504 of 7006 by ruking1 Feb 08, 2005 (2:38 pm)
Obviously you need to verify the sizes, but the G009 is good. Bridgestone Turanza LS-T, Goodyear Comfort Tread, BFG Traction T/A-T & H rated are also on my list of top replacement tires, for another size 185/70/14.
#4505 of 7006 Re: Tires for 2000 Neon ES [mz6greyghost] by imidazol97 Feb 08, 2005 (2:40 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 08, 2005 2:04 pm) Michelin Harmony is ranked well for snow on their site (9) and is available in both sizes you mentioned. http://www.michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_harmony.pdf I put those on my car and they are great in water and in snow (Ohio). The price was good. There's a comparable tire Destiny at Tire Discounters and similar tire Agility at Sears. The Harmony had one step higher snow rating on Michelin's site.
#4506 of 7006 Re: Tires for 2000 Neon ES [mz6greyghost] by yurakm Feb 08, 2005 (3:08 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 08, 2005 2:04 pm) Bridgestone Potenza G009 is a new type of tires, less than 1 year on market. It replaces Firestone Firehawk SH-30. Practically the same tread pattern on sides, but substantially different one in center: G009 is directional. I had SH-30 with my 98 Malibu, for about 33k miles. Great tires for dry pavement and outstanding for wet. Sporty. Do not hydroplane. However, the tires were so-so in snow. Especially after 20k or 25k miles, with 6/32" of tread left. I live and work in Connecticut, 2-6 miles from the Long Island Sound. Hilly terrains, winding roads, but not cold. Few snow on roads, but when it snows, the snow is very wet, heavy, and sticky. In addition, it melts and slips on warmer pavements. Very different from upper NY. There is no sense to buy winter tires in our places. However, a lot of people who lives 50 miles farther from the ocean, in Northern CT, buys winter tires. Probably, even more sense to do it in the upper NY. Nokian all-season tires from Finland are very popular in Scandinavia and Russia. Have a reputation to be as good in snow as winter tires. Personally, I have no experience with them. http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=6 Replies to this message: andys120 (Feb 08, 2005 4:40 pm) kankokuonly (Feb 11, 2005 3:30 pm) mz6greyghost (Feb 12, 2005 1:11 pm)
#4507 of 7006 Re: Tires for 2000 Neon ES [yurakm] by andys120 Feb 08, 2005 (4:40 pm)
Replying to: yurakm (Feb 08, 2005 3:08 pm) Nokian WRs are probably the best all season tires out there, they come highly recommended but expensively priced. Replies to this message: kankokuonly (Feb 11, 2005 3:30 pm) mz6greyghost (Feb 12, 2005 1:11 pm)
#4508 of 7006 Tire expense by pathstar1 Feb 09, 2005 (8:10 am)
For a long time I was determined to wear out my older tires before buying new ones. Then I came to my senses - if you slide into another car or fixed object it will cost you more than $500, perhaps a lot more. Much more than getting proper all season tires early. I got the Nokian WRs and they work very well, both on a Mazda RX-8 and a Nissan Pathfinder. Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Feb 09, 2005 9:25 am) ruking1 (Feb 09, 2005 4:22 pm) yurakm (Feb 09, 2005 3:40 pm)
#4509 of 7006 Re: Tire expense [pathstar1] by imidazol97 Feb 09, 2005 (9:25 am)
Replying to: pathstar1 (Feb 09, 2005 8:10 am) I agree. GEtting that last 25% of tread wear on a highway tire isn't worth the lowered traction in an emergency or rain situation. I ditched two tires last month and got two with great tread for snow; that backs are 30%. I should have changed all 4 tires. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Feb 09, 2005 4:22 pm)
#4510 of 7006 Re: Tire expense [pathstar1] by yurakm Feb 09, 2005 (3:40 pm)
Replying to: pathstar1 (Feb 09, 2005 8:10 am) If you are planning to replace tires before they are turning bald, it is usually possible to wait for a big sale and to buy a new set of tires at great discount, up to 25% ("one tire is free when you are buying 4"). On the other hand, if you are trying to milk the last 25% of tread, you finish up paying full price, or got smaller discount, if you are lucky. In result tires cost you the same, per mile, but during the last 25% of time are much worse.
#4511 of 7006 Re: Tire expense [imidazol97] by ruking1 Feb 09, 2005 (4:22 pm)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 09, 2005 9:25 am) While this can vary a bit, 2/32in ( 20% tread) left is the definition of legally bald. So if one starts with 10/32 in. on a tire new, then by definition 8/32 in is "useable." "If you are planning to replace tires before they are turning bald, it is usually possible to wait for a big sale and to buy a new set of tires at great discount, up to 25% ("one tire is free when you are buying 4"). On the other hand, if you are trying to milk the last 25% of tread, you finish up paying full price, or got smaller discount, if you are lucky. In result tires cost you the same, per mile, but during the last 25% of time are much worse." Yeah, I did exactly that! I had 3/32 left on an SUV that I had just gone up to and came back from a record snowstorm and snow accumulations in the mountains. (Reno, NV) Absolutely positively no loss of traction!! I probably could have easily gone another half year, but they had a 60-70 dollar rebate off normally low prices, so I took the plunge!!
#4512 of 7006 Re: Tires for 2000 Neon ES [yurakm] by kankokuonly Feb 11, 2005 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Feb 08, 2005 4:40 pm) I'd go with Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 or BFGoodrich g-Force Sport. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/bfg_gforce_sport.jsp Replies to this message: mz6greyghost (Feb 12, 2005 1:11 pm)