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#9 of 2936 To # 7 by dpdssm Oct 25, 2000 (1:17 am)
I have been waiting since Aug 18 and still absoultely no word on delivery. I have traded a car a 1998 ZX2 got a great deal, but I dont want to drive it very much to preserve value, so that is my situation. I don't think I like all these postings re avaliability. Some people get them some don't and you and I are in the latter group But if they aren't right I guess we could back out.
#10 of 2936 Low City MPG? by 1jimv1 Oct 25, 2000 (3:23 am)
dyl2, what octane gasoline are you buying? These modern engines have a high compression ratio so they also have a knock detector that retards the ignition when it knocks because perhaps you "floor it" in town a lot. You will get lower MPG with regular gasoline because the engine must adjust to compensate for it. See what happens to your MPG with high octane fuel.
#11 of 2936 milage... by redzone98 Oct 25, 2000 (4:46 am)
10 miles to the gallon??!! something is very wrong, unless your hauling a ton of weight around a very hilly city scape, there is no reason, get the engine checked out!
#12 of 2936 Low gas mileage by tronsr Oct 25, 2000 (12:32 pm)
Are you sure you are not driving a Hummer? Getting ten miles per gallon with the Escape is inconceivable. You are either have a gasoline leak or you are computing the miles per gallon wrong. I, also, strongly suggest a trip back to your dealership.
#13 of 2936 My MPG by dyl2 Oct 25, 2000 (2:00 pm)
The thing is I don't even rev the truck above 3000rpm so I know I'm not pushing it. Like I said, it's really fine on the highway (about 22-23) but in the city it just gets ridiculous and I don't haul or drive it hard at all. In response to the question about octane grade used, I'm using 87 because I don't believe it needs any better. Besides, higher octane fuel burns finer and should give you better performance but less mileage so I don't think that's it. Anyways, I gave Ford Assistance Center a call and they told me that I had a recall issue, the fuel line. My dealer told me all had been taken care of but perhaps that was before that particular recall was issued. Does anybody know if that would affect the MPG? Again, I must get LESS than 10MPG (Just drove 15 city, 10 highway for a total of 25 miles and it looks like 3 gallons are gone. Replies to this message: guyer (Nov 11, 2004 10:22 am) scape2 (Nov 12, 2004 8:22 am)
#14 of 2936 Power Seats? by bcollison Oct 25, 2000 (3:48 pm)
Can you get the 6-way power seats in an XLT with the cloth seats, or do you have to get leather to get the power seats? We live in moderate hills and I noticed the Escape V-6 shifted alot out of overdrive, does it still do this after they are broke in? My V-6 SOHC Explorer doesn't shift out of overdrive on these same small hills. Thanks in advance!
#15 of 2936 dyl2 by Sporin Oct 25, 2000 (4:27 pm)
"In response to the question about octane grade used, I'm using 87 because I don't believe it needs any better. Besides, higher octane fuel burns finer and should give you better performance but less mileage so I don't think that's it." --dyl2 By, there's a lot wrong with that statement. I would guesss the reason that you "...don't believe it needs any better..." is becasue you don't want to pony up the extra 3¢ - 5¢ a gallon and not some great engineering deduction. I will give you my experience. My '99 Passat Turbo REQUIRES a minimum of 91 octane gas. With a lesser octane, there is a measurable (dynoed) decrease in MPG and Horsepower. The engine is DESIGNED and CALIBRATED to use that fuel best. You should ALWAYS use the gas octane that is recommended in YOUR owner's manual because modern engines are calibrated to run on a specific octane. If it is true that you don't NEED to use a HIGHER grade then the manufacturer recommends (and it is true!) then it is also true that using a LESSER grade has a negative effect on your MPG and HP. So if the manual says use 89 or 91 and you have decided to use 87 because "...I don't believe it needs any better..." then you deserve your crappy mileage. Sorry for the bluntness. {sidenote} It always amazes me how someone can spend more then $20k on a new car then carry on about how much gas costs. The difference per gallon from 87 to 91 octane is about 10¢... in a 16 gallon tank that means an extra $1.60 per fill up. Small price to pay IMO for a cleaner running, more fuel efficiant, better performing vehicle. No flame meant, just my opinion.
#16 of 2936 Octane=hp by siya Oct 25, 2000 (5:08 pm)
The owners manual on my '99 Odyessy rate the engine at 205bhp on 87 octane and 210bhp on 91+. First time I've seen it specified. Still waiting for Escape xlt 4x2 ordered 9/5.
#17 of 2936 sporin on mileage by dyl2 Oct 25, 2000 (5:23 pm)
First of all, I absolutely agree that you should always use what if recommended by the manufacturer. That's 87 and what I'm using. I really wouldn't use anything else not because of the extra two bucks but because that's not specified. To tell you the truth, if you said that using 93 would make a noticeable difference in the longevity and quality of my engine, I'd use it but you probably should've checked what the manufacturer's specifications were before you made a reply that really doesn't give me an answer to my situation. By the way, I really hope you weren't insinuating that even using a crappier grade of gas (which I'm not according to specs) could account for such a huge disparity in MPG cause that would truly be ignorant.
#18 of 2936 dyle2 by Sporin Oct 25, 2000 (5:34 pm)
Relax... no reason to get all offended. I was trying to give you some examples based on my own experiences and knowledge re: Octane, that's all. I apoligize for ASSuming you were just being cheap, but I thought the Escape asked for 89 octane, most cars do nowadays. I was mistaken, sorry, but no one is perfect. I was also NOT suggesting that using the wrong octane accounted for your ultra-low mileage. I was just trying to add something more to the 5 "answers" above mine that all told you to go to the dealer... those posts didn't answer your question anymore then mine did btw. Take a breath, we're all on the same team here.

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