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#984 of 1068 Lexus GX470 or 400h? by hallini Oct 22, 2005 (4:57 pm)
I am also considering the GX 470 -- except the gas mileage wouldn't be much better than my Landcruiser -- in addition to our family of 4, we also have a standard poodle. Which choice would be a better fit: Lexus GX 470, Lexus 400h, Acura MDX or Honda Odyssey? My boys and husband would be embarrased to be seen in the minivan but I find it practical and convenient. Replies to this message: steve_ (Oct 22, 2005 5:04 pm)
#985 of 1068 Re: Lexus GX470 or 400h? [hallini] by steve_ HOST Oct 22, 2005 (5:04 pm)
Replying to: hallini (Oct 22, 2005 4:57 pm) You need one of these:   BOW WOW (Inside Line)   I could see myself cruising around town in an Ivory Ody with a black standard poodle next to me.   Steve, Host
#986 of 1068 White Standard Poodle and black Ody? by hallini Oct 22, 2005 (9:42 pm)
My standard poodle is white (although her parents are both black) so what color Ody should I get, black w/ ivory interior?"> Replies to this message: steve_ (Oct 22, 2005 9:49 pm)
#987 of 1068 Re: White Standard Poodle and black Ody? [hallini] by steve_ HOST Oct 22, 2005 (9:49 pm)
Replying to: hallini (Oct 22, 2005 9:42 pm) Since poodles don't shed, I suppose you could get a black Ody with ivory on the inside (have fun keeping all that black sheet metal clean though, LOL).   I'm just partial to black standard poodles myself -- I used to borrow my neighbor's all the time to walk.   Steve, Host
#988 of 1068 Desert Rock Metallic w/ Ivory by hallini Oct 22, 2005 (10:30 pm)
All of my cars have been white (just like my poodle) so I am ready for a change (in my car, not my poodle) but a big black van does sound like high maintenance -- the desert rock looks very nice and I think my Sophie Rose would approve too!.
#989 of 1068 Dilema of ML350-SRX V6? by taketheoffer Oct 24, 2005 (5:51 am)
The good news is that the lease on my 2002 JGC Overland HO (High Maintenance) is coming up. Based upon its recent unreliability and the 2005s downgraded (plastic would be rejected by the little tikes toy company) interior, it will be my last of 3 in a row JGCs. Jeep couldn’t even get the Commander right. How can you offer the same vehicle with the same components in a price that ranges between $17K and $43K? It no longer is feasible to go high end with Jeeps and it becomes apparent that their new competition is Scion.    The bad news is the wife has decided she now wants either an SRX AWD (3 row w/ ultra view) or 06 ML350. The worse news is there seems to be no competitive offers on either. There are no 2005 SRXs to be had for a deal and the 06 leases worse then the ML (residuals). Cadillac offers an Escalade at far better deals then the SRX. The residual is sweet on the MLs but the prices seem unmovable and the MF is usurious. To add insult to injury the dealer told me that once the MFs come down in the winter (along with the residual) he would continue to sell them like hotcakes at full price because “MLs sell themselves in snow months”.   So the questions are: 1) Has anyone seen any competitive pricing on either in the NY-NJ-CT area? 2) Is the situation going to get better or worse (should I wait)? 3) Should I get something else? (she was already kind enough to rule out VW, Infiniti, Acura, Volvo & Lexus).   Thanks for any help you can give… Replies to this message: lovemyclk (Oct 25, 2005 2:11 pm) taketheoffer (Oct 25, 2005 4:53 pm) newmowner (Nov 10, 2005 10:04 am) taketheoffer (Nov 10, 2005 2:13 pm) and 2 more...
#990 of 1068 Re: Dilema of ML350-SRX V6? [taketheoffer] by lovemyclk Oct 25, 2005 (2:11 pm)
Replying to: taketheoffer (Oct 24, 2005 5:51 am) “MLs sell themselves in snow months”.   I wouldn't do business with anybody insulting your intelligence with such a comment. Love the new ML, but they certainly don't sell themselves. You may want to find another dealer, or explain to the Sales Mgr that the salesperson has you walking out the door with such insulting commentary. I'm sure that he/she knows there are options for your business.   Regarding the SRX, your bride may find ingress/egress a bit challenging due to the wide rocker panel trim under the doors. She would get her clothing dirty on a rainy day unless she was 6'4" tall with long legs to match Replies to this message: taketheoffer (Oct 25, 2005 4:53 pm) newmowner (Nov 10, 2005 10:04 am) taketheoffer (Nov 10, 2005 2:13 pm) newmowner (Nov 10, 2005 6:13 pm) and 1 more...
#991 of 1068 Re: Dilema of ML350-SRX V6? [lovemyclk] by taketheoffer Oct 25, 2005 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: lovemyclk (Oct 25, 2005 2:11 pm) Thanks for the advice. It seems like they fixed the rocker on the 2006. Besides the mentioned dealer, I have been through a few MB dealers. Nothing close to competitive.   In the meanwhile the Jeep service claim to have finally found what is wrong with my JGC Overland that has been in the dealer's service shop as a regular on & off since May. And finally, the dealership's GM has stepped in and offers to take me out of my lease 4 months early. Great. (isn't that the point of the "drive ahead" program") And get this he will give me a GREAT price. Wow.    Limited 4x4 with Navigation (thats it for options). He offers me a rock bottom sales price of a $37500 for a Base 4X4 Limited w/ Navigation.    Question after researching this site... Isn't that above invoice or am I missing something? & without the $1500 cash back(?)... The Lease #s are $540 a mo. PLUS Tax, tags & 1st Mo at driveoff. This doesn't seem right. Although cheaper then what I was looking at (ML350 & SRX) as I was ready to walk away from the brand (after 2 JGCs in a row 3 total) and was enticed back with an "incredible deal" for a Jeep loyalist & to compensate for me driving a loaner all summer (at Overland prices). I test drove it & enjoyed it but should I be disappointed at the olive branch? What does anyone else think of this.
#992 of 1068 ML thoughts by wannabuyavalon Oct 27, 2005 (7:46 am)
I own a 1999 ML 320 and have had it for about 6 yrs now. The vehicle is very sturdy/heavy and it feels really safe to be in. But the amount of time it spends at the dealership and the huge amounts for maint. make for a very painful experience both financially and otherwise. I tried to get it sold, but the dealer offered me $10k for it and it has only 72k miles and in pretty good condition with all bells and whistles (incl a third row seat). If you are in the market and considering one of these, please think again and stay away. Hope this helps. Replies to this message: taketheoffer (Oct 28, 2005 4:43 am)
#993 of 1068 Re: ML thoughts [wannabuyavalon] by taketheoffer Oct 28, 2005 (4:43 am)
Replying to: wannabuyavalon (Oct 27, 2005 7:46 am) I appreciate your input on the ML. I have seen a tremdous (almost overnight) decline in ML320-350 values especially since the 2006s were released. A "new" 2005 can be had at a ridiculous discount. I guess that's why they don't budge on the 2006s. Just price alone the ML350 is out the running for me. They just don't want to negotiate on them. The funniest story is a MB dealer calling me (after I specifically told them to email me prices) and tell me that there was an "undisclosed sale" (their words) on the MLs. That's all they would tell me. Apparently the price itself was a secret but I was graciously invited to their dealership 40 miles away for more details and a wine tasting event (huh?). In 1999 I used "Stoneage"(before it became cars.com) and autobytel to buy a car and it was great. my .02 to edmunds is that internet car buying/shopping has actually gotten more difficult and at a minimum more complicated since then.

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