Last post on Jul 29, 2012 at 7:31 PM
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Mercedes-Benz M-Class, Acura MDX, Lexus RX 330, BMW X5, Cadillac SRX, Toyota Highlander, Volvo XC90, SUV
#1076 of 1084 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350
Feb 07, 2012 (11:18 am)
This is our first adventure into the luxury vehicle market and have narrowed our choices down to the BMW x5 and the Lexus RX350. In truth, we like the X5 better, but do have concerns about overall maintenance charges after the initial warranties. We tend to keep our cars for 10+ years, so interested in any insight regarding past experiences comparing these 2 on what we can expect from charges. Because of past biases, I must admit we are leaning towards the RX350 because we feel that it will be cheaper down the road from a maintenance perspective. Welcome your views and appreciate the input.
#1077 of 1084 Re: 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350 [jac17]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 07, 2012 (5:04 pm)
I'll admit my bias right upfront.. I am in love with the BMW maintenance plan.. For four years, you just drop the car off and never pay a dime...
While the Lexus may be cheaper to maintain and repair over 8-10 years, that is a long time to drive your second choice.. (and, given the four year head start on maintenance with the BMW, that isn't a given)..
I tend to think of Asian makes as cheaper than the Europeans, as well.. but, I've seen our local Lexus dealership.... they are paying for all those luxury accoutrements from somewhere... I'm guessing the service department is pulling their weight....
#1078 of 1084 Re: 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350 [kyfdx]
Feb 12, 2012 (11:41 am)
While I would NEVER buy any BMW, in a comparison with the RX for wintertime adverse roadbed conditions I would ALWAYS choose the R/awd X5. Open the door to other marques and the Porsche Cayenne wins.
#1079 of 1084 Re: 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350 [wwest]
Feb 20, 2012 (11:34 pm)
My wife had to return a new RX450H. Cabin integrity compromised with burning, fumes -- she was sick, our son quick. OUr contractor at home sampled car and said, "How can anyone breathe in this?" Dealer found no problem but refused to replicate driving conditions -- long drive followed by steep climb to our home in Santa Monica Mountains. We paid dealer $5000 to get out of lease and expected Toyota Corp (for Lexus) simply to reimburse. Isntead ,they stonewalled. So, now we will go to Federal authorities, advise automobile columnists and pursue litigation. We'll probably put in more time than justified, but it's a matter of principle. On prior Lexus, copany was responsive to any concerns. They could have resolved this nicely by simply ot making us eat the loss. I'm assume problem not widespread -- only found few similar problems on Internet realted to a substance used that can give off toxics. We will be raising the profile of this issue to see if others had similar problems that were not resolved. By the way, out of courtesy to Lexus, we even advised corp counsel, and he imprudent bucked problem to a bureaucrat who did not seek closure. We were stunned and surprised at the company's insensitivity and inability the consequences of its failure to resolve our situation.
#1080 of 1084 Re: 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350 [asteinberg]
Feb 22, 2012 (9:17 am)
Are we talking "out-gassing" of material/plastics (new car smell) or mould/mildew odor..?
#1081 of 1084 Re: 2012 BMW X5 vs. 2012 Lexus RX350 [wwest]
Feb 28, 2012 (11:27 pm)
Good question. Beyond new car smell -- actually producing nausea, dizziness.
Not mold or mildew. Dealer wanted modest amount to offer replacement, but my wife had lost confidence. Regardless, dealer would not test vehicle under similar circumstances.
#1082 of 1084 Re: Why I picked the RX over the others [carfan777]
Mar 20, 2012 (6:51 pm)
This is a terrific post. Thank you so much for sharing the results of your search which is about to save me a TON of time.
#1083 of 1084 Re: Why I picked the RX over the others [carfan777]
Jul 29, 2012 (1:59 am)
With all your respect and no offence but I can tell that everything you’ve said is very personal and subjective. All you just have expressed is YOUR taste about cars, which as normal it’s gonna be deferent to others. Like you may prefer chocolate ice cream and I may prefer vanilla. And when it comes to reliability it happens that I used to be an RX owner, unfortunately a very disappointed one like many others I found in different forums. My RX needed a transmission rebuild at 90K miles and according to the mechanic it was not the first one. I found RX owners online with transmission problems at 40, 50, 60 and 70K, this is unacceptable for the money you pay for these cars. It was funny when I told a Lexus sales person that I would never buy a pre-owned RX again and if I do I would get rid of it before factory warranty expires and that they are just good looking cars, lol… he got kind of mad. And I went ahead and said that not every Toyota/Lexus products are good, they’ve been successful with Corolla, Camry/ES, 4Runner/GX and Landcruiser/LX the rest is questionable, He said: if the Camry is a good car so is the Highlander/RX because they share the same transmission. That is when I understood the root of the problem, Toyota/Lexus are using a sedan transmission on a much heavier vehicle like the Highlander and RX. So after all if you are just gonna drive your RX during the warranty period you are fine, don’t go any further dough, that’s my advice. If you don’t believe me just Google “RX transmission problems”.
#1084 of 1084 Re: Why I picked the RX over the others [luiggim]
Jul 29, 2012 (7:31 pm)
"..they share the same transmission.."
True and NOT.
The Camry was used as a model, start, for the early RX transmission, but regretably with some serious changes included. Then in about '01 that "changed" RX transmission was (re?) adopted by the Camry and etc, etc.
It was only after DBW was adopted (RX330) that those new transmissions become reasonably reliable.