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GMC Yukon XL, SUV
May 20, 2003 (12:17 pm)
We bought at ONeill GMC on Street Road in Warminster.
For others looking at the Yukon XL, we bought the 1SD package w/o sunroof a few weeks ago, and I continue to be impressed with the drivability and road manners of such a large vehicle. Visibility is excellent, the leather quality seems high, and the overall feel is solid. My only complaint is that the carpeting is really cheap for such an expensive vehicle. We have 3 kids and the extra room will be welcome at vacation time. We paid $300 under invoice and perhaps could have done better given how close we are to the 2004s, but coupled with GM dollars and rebate we paid $6K under invoice. So overall we are pleased with an excellent upgrade from a mini van. For anyone on the fence on this vehicle, I strongly recommend a test drive.
#2870 of 4104 EARLY Lease turn-in ..again.. GM products.. ???
May 20, 2003 (3:21 pm)
visiting up here on Long Island(NY) this week.. my old home.. now residing in s/e NC north of M-Bch area.....
all the local papers here on LI are running ads stating GM has initiated their early lease turn-in for those leases that end May-thru Dec '03.. anyone else heard anything on it.. I used it once before back in '01 when I turned in my '99 Chevy Subn for my '01 Z71... still have 1 year left Apr '04 lease ends..
not sure if we'll be Subn owners once again.. we both drive '01 burbans .. wife has an LT 4wd.. excessive inside front tire wear a major headache on both trucks... Chevy-GM won't do anything about it... we've noticed many, many Subn-Tahoe-Yukons-XL's in parking lots with same wear patterns.. so it must be a problem GM-wide.. both have been checked, rechecked front end alignments and balancing.. bad news...
might be going back to Ford because of it.. have had pretty decent luck with them in the past.. never anything like this.. have had new Expedition and two Explorers.. all 4x4's..without any front end problems.. or any major problems at all
#2871 of 4104 03 Z71 price
May 20, 2003 (10:20 pm)
I recently called our local dealer for a price on a loaded Z71. He told me $500 over invoice (plus tax and license I'm sure) What other charges should I be aware of? Is this a fair price? our driving is mainly in town taxiing kids, and road trips. Is the Z71 pkg worth the extra $ and fuel expense? We bought a new LT in 95 and like the subs or should we look at the GMC? If ordered should we delete the on star?( probably wont use it) how about the satellite radio? or are the after market entertainment and satellite radio better?
#2872 of 4104 Z71 comments
May 21, 2003 (4:24 am)
Lumber, the Z71 trim is essentially a bumped-up LS trim, adding some off-road essentials and some nice touches like a "real" roofrack and tubular running boards. I also believe the Z71 is about 3" higher. It should be considered between the LS and LT trims, but shouldn't warrant any significant pricing/profit margin over the other trims. Most people buy the Z71 because, well, it looks very sporty and sits just a tad higher. The road manners are a little better with the stiffer suspension but the ride isn't as cushy as the LT. Just depends on what you like.
As to the OnStar and XM Satellite packages, I don't believe that you can delete them on the '04's and possibly the '03's too, though I could be wrong, since they are now standard features. There is no longer a "base" model any more. You can simply elect not to subscribe to any monthly package deal after your free service (with new car purchase) ends, as the hardware is virtually invisible anyway.
There are some terrific and MUCH cheaper alternatives to factory or dealer installed entertainment systems. For example, for a mere $400 I purchased an Audiovox mobile entertainment system--VBP3000---with video cassette player, tv tuner, and two 5" color flat screens with attached speakers. The screens fit nicely on the back of the front seat headrests with the included headrest attachments. The VCP/tuner fit PERFECTLY under a 2nd row captain's chair in my 'Burb, completely out of the way and out of sight. A plus with two screens is that one person can watch a video while another watches tv or can play a video game. Each screen has the standard 3-radio plug audio/video connections! One thing--to get any stations at all on the tv tuner, no matter where you live, you must purchase an ampliphied tv antenna. I bought and installed an in-cabin antenna for less than $30 and it works great. I get 4 channels even in rural Virginia. I imagine more would be available in population centers. The whole shebang is also easily removeable and has an adapter for home use, so you can bring it into the hotel/motel/campground, etc. I recommend it over the installed overhead versions, which are pricey no matter how you slice it, are a BIG problem if they break (which I understand is not uncommon), and they interfere with rear-views while driving when they are in the down position.
Hope all that helps! I don't suppose that you have ever had dual exhaust in your 'Burbs...see my post above. Thanks!
#2873 of 4104 Z71 Comments - lumber
May 21, 2003 (7:12 am)
We have had our 03 Z71Burb for about 7 months and 16K miles. I would concur a lot with what waveho wrote. Ours has XM and the DVD player factory-installed. I think the ride isn't quite as cushy in the Z71 package, but I love the look. I can always spot ours in the parking lot, so for me it's about the look.
XM Radio: We found Z71 exactly as we wanted, except it had XM. I didn't want it (I think it was $350 and $10/month if you activate it. You get one month free, I think.) I'm so glad we got the XM. I love it. I even got an after market XM for my Audi. Much better factory-installed, however. Works better with the stereo. Highly recommend.
DVD: Yes, the screen blocks your center rear view mirror when down -- test drive to see how much it bothers you. I'm used to it, but it is a minus. Another negative is its cost. But, I would do it again. It's awesome for the kids with the wireless headphones (we bought two more) and you can even plug two wired headphones into the rear center console and choose 'RSE'. Also, sometimes we even put the DVD on the stereo so the entire cab can listen without headphones, kind of a riot listening to Shrek while you're driving.
Onstar: Pretty sure it's standard. I won't renew after the free 12-month period. Haven't used it once, except to set up. Personal preference, wish I could delete it.
Price: We paid $500 over invoice, but there was $500 in dealer give back plus 0%/36 months, so it was invoice plus zero percent. We were happy with it, especially getting it early in the model year (October 1, 2003).
May 21, 2003 (7:15 am)
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May 21, 2003 (7:17 am)
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#2876 of 4104 Z71 comments
May 21, 2003 (11:32 am)
Thanks for the comments on the Z71. They were great! Good to hear from those that have
what one is trying to buy. The dealer just faxed the detail of the vehicle and said it is ordered.
I can't believe he ordered it I only called for a price? I do not have dual exhaust although I would think it would increase the power at the sacrifice of quiet. I'll look into the audiovox, thanks.
For my wife, she now wants the look of the Z71 it appears to us that it sits higher than a LT
or normal sub. I asked the dealer, he blew me off with " nahh..." My wife is excited about a new sub. Sounds like our mileage is going to drop 10-12mpg may hurt. thanks again.
May 21, 2003 (12:32 pm)
I have had my new Z for a week now, awesome vehicle. I does sit about 3 inches higher than LT or LS.
I agree on waveho's assessment of the ride quality. I prefer a bit more feel of the road so the Z71 is right up my alley.
As for the fuel mileage, so far for the in town/hwy mix driving I have done (200 miles) I am averaging 14.3. I did one city freeway trip of about 50 miles and averaged 16.2. I am going to put on about 750 miles over the next 6 days, I will report back how the hwy mileage is.
When fuel mileage is lower than expected keep these things in mind: 285hp engines burn a lot of fuel when pushed. When accelerating from a stand still, do so very gently. Use cruise control whenever possible, including around town assuming you can do it safely, even for short stretches. 4.10 gears will decrease fuel mileage, as will Ethanol enhanced fuel, especially E85. Concerning freeway driving, after 60 mph, each 5 mph will come at a cost of about 1 MPG, so if you were getting 18mpg at a constant 60, you will get 15mpg at a constant 75- time is money, how fast do want to go?
In the end, none of us bought these machines thinking we were going to get great fuel mileage like we did when we drove Civics and Escorts. So-so fuel economy is the price we pay for all the other great attributes the Suburban brings to the table.
#2878 of 4104 Electronic Brake Controller
May 22, 2003 (3:46 pm)
Has anyone wired in the factory supplied Harness to put in an electric trailer brake controller? I found the plug where the factory supplied (separate) harness plugs in above the drivers left foot. What I don't see is where the separate Orange 40 amp fuse plugs in. Instructions say to plug it into Stud #1 located at the UH electrical Center for vehicles with single battery which mine is. Any idea where Stud #1 is? other than between your legs that is. Has anyone wired in a controller, and has any advise on brand or types, I'd appreciate it. Thanks Rich