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#4011 of 4149 Re: no start when engine temperature is between 40 to 45 degrees fahrenheit
Dec 05, 2009 (10:24 am)
I have a 2006 Ford Escape that will not crank in the mornings when the temperature outside is below 45 degrees. It doesn't make a sound when you turn the ignition switch. There are no error codes comming up with this problem. The car operates perfect the rest of the time. The car never stalls out or shows any hint of a problem the rest of the time. I purchased a warranty when I bought the car so the dealership want even look at it unless they have it in their posession while it is acting up. The problem with leaving it with them is that the temperature goes up by the time they get to work and by then its cranking with no problem. I took the car to Interstate Battery and my battery and alternator are fine. I'm wondering if the problem is related to some sort of a computer or sensor problem that is not allowing the car to start at this temperature. It's like the built in security system when you lock your car door with the window down and then reach your hand in the window and unlock the door without using the key from the outside and then stick the key in the ignition and try to crank it and the car doesn't make a noise and doesn't crank. That's just like it does with my no crank problem. This is becomming an annoying problem because I have to leave for work early in the morning and having to catch a ride with someone else to drive to work and then my roomate is able to get in the car and crank it up by the time I get to work. Have you found out what yours and my problem is? Can anyone on the forum make any suggestion to what my problem is.
#4012 of 4149 Ford Escpe will not start in the mornings when the temperature is below 45
Dec 05, 2009 (11:13 am)
I have a 2006 Ford Escape that will not crank in the mornings when the temperature outside is below 45 degrees. It doesn't make a sound when you turn the ignition switch. There are no error codes coming up with this problem. The car operates perfect the rest of the time. The other confusion is that the temperature doesn't effect the car cranking the rest of the day, no matter how cold it gets outside. The car never stalls out or shows any hint of a problem the rest of the time. I purchased a warranty when I bought the car so the dealership want even look at it unless they have it in their possession while it is acting up. The problem with leaving it with them is that the temperature goes up by the time they get to the dealership and by then its cranking with no problem. I took the car to Interstate Battery and my battery and alternator are fine. I'm wondering if the problem is related to some sort of a computer or sensor problem that is not allowing the car to start at this temperature. It's like the built in security system when you lock your car door with the window down and then reach your hand in the window and unlock the door without using the key from the outside and then stick the key in the ignition and try to crank it and the car doesn't make a noise and doesn't crank. That's just like it does with my no crank problem. This is becoming an annoying problem because I have to leave for work early in the morning and having to catch a ride with someone else to drive to work and then my roommate is able to get in the car and crank it up by the time I get to work. Have you found out what yours and my problem is? Can anyone on the forum make any suggestion to what my problem is.
#4013 of 4149 03 escape alternator&trans problems
Jan 03, 2010 (1:34 pm)
we started out yesterday morning no problems.got back in vehicle to come home trans seemed like it had a stall speed in it. once on open road it would accelerate shift into 2nd and rpms would go to 3&4 thousand then the battery light would come on.it has 100300miles on it regulary serviced never any trouble new battery 6mo ago.thanks for any help you might offer
#4014 of 4149 Re: 2004 escape misfire [tjm71480]
Jan 06, 2010 (6:12 am)
Have you determined what the problem is yet? I have a 2005 Escape and have been having a very similar problem for the past three weeks or so, except mine is only misfiring on the 4th or 5th cylinder (not sure which one). It's also definitely caused by moisture because it's only happening when it rains or snows. I was thinking that it was the ignition coil as opposed to the fuel because I had this same problem almost exactly a year ago and they replaced the ignition coil and it seemed to fix the problem until now. My mechanic assured me that the ignition coil just went bad and moisture had nothing to do with it, but I KNOW that's not the case. It's running fine all week so far because we have had no rain or snow. I am taking it to the garage on Thursday....
#4015 of 4149 Re: 2004 escape misfire [carss1]
Jan 06, 2010 (11:33 am)
We've had the same issue. In our case, it was the intake manifold gaskets. We had them replaced, and the spark plugs too, and then about 2 months later, we had the same problem (vehicle misfiring on 2 cylinders, running rough at idle) all over again. Took the vehicle to a different mechanic, and found out that the intake manifold gaskets were leaking AGAIN, and that one of the spark plugs was white (probably from the vehicle running too lean). Had to have the intake manifold gaskets replaced again, as well as one of the new spark plugs we'd just replaced. Hope this helps. If nothing else, it's something to consider. We even replaced the IAC and a few other emissions related parts thinking maybe those were the problem, but that wasn't it.
#4017 of 4149 Ford had a banner year? How? ... and is this a B horror-movie?
Jan 06, 2010 (3:39 pm)
Up front, I will say that I have owned my 2005 Escape LTD for its entire life...and it's been a great vehicle. It's towed trailers, been there in the snow and ice of the Sierras, and I mean big snow and big ice...the kind that scares the hell out of you. (Even more than the LA freeway It's taken my husband and I through the desert and all manner of weather, without a hitch. It now lives in New England. But it's age may be showing...or at least Ford's. I've posted on these boards: concerns over a Theft light and hesitation that many other owners have experienced, and with different Escape vintages that Ford themselves have created DTCs for as far back as 2007. I said that I would get back to chatters with whatever ensued. So here's the latest installment: I just today, 01-06-2010, trusting that a BBB's report was current, brought the aforementioned Escape to the dea-leur at the crack of dawn. (Well, for me 6:30 was the crack of dawn here in Conneckaticket!) And then Ford's bigger problem poured itself all over me--quality control. Actually, quality-out-of-control is more like it. Here's how it unravelled (as depicted in a letter I sent to the, ahum-m, Manager of the dealership, which shall remain nameless...oh what the heck. They're on Boston Road in Madison. There! That oughta do it. So here it is:
I'm certain that you receive all manner of reports, sent by customers. Consider this one more of a heads-up...something that will hopefully not reach the complaint stage. This morning, Wednesday, the 6th of January, 2010, I came into your establishment for a service check--this the product of a problem that has suddenly reared its head in my vehicle. This was my first time at your dealership. I chose you because I'd read good things about your group, and frankly have checked you out on the BBB site. Here's an account of how its gone so far:
Arrived a bit ahead of my 8:30 appointment, which I confirmed online. Followed the signs where they led me, which turned out to be wrong--was told to speak with person at front desk. Returned to front desk, and person there, who seemed unduly nervous, began the process of checking me in, entering whatever into her database--the usual. The only thing that wasn't "the usual," was the curt demeanor with which she asked her questions and answered mine. And when I was asked for the very same information I'd already entered into the online form, like VIN#, etcetera, and also issued the natural--and politely put--question "Haven't you received the online form I filled out yesterday?", she got unnecessarily short with me--as if annoyed. I went out to get the Registration, returned, and the atmosphere disintegrated from there, but not to the argumentative stage because I avoided it. (Pat myself on the back!) We got it all sorted out, but I think the pall of friction that hit me when I first entered that room is something that you should be apprised of.
The girl at the front desk may have been stressed because of the man sitting just behind her at the second desk. The fellow was on edge. The few questions the girl asked him were answered abruptly with unnecessary edginess--almost as if he were trying to get into it with someone. He even acted this way with another customer whom he spoke with. In my case, I simply asked about the process that was clearly explained on the Ford website and then on the form I filled out online--about what would happen, and how I would be speaking with a rep/mechanic or whomever. Frankly, I have done so much research on the problem I'm experiencing with my vehicle that, thanks to the contributors in various chatrooms, I might have lent someone insight--it's a problem that many are talking about on the net on various Websites.
I had also spoken to someone there at your dealership and pre-ordered a rental vehicle, on January 5th, in anticipation of at least a day's time being needed by the mechanics--in retrospect, thinking about it, I believe that the gruff person at the second desk may very well have been the person I spoke with. But after my asking for my vehicle, he not only claimed to "not know" anything about the reservation but also not even know if there were any vehicles available. We eventually sorted it all out. But the gruff person's parting phrase "someone will drive your vehicle and call today" was somehow not very reassuring; not how the, quote, friendly verbiage on the website explained it would all go.
These are stressful times for many, but there is absolutely no need for rudeness, ill-manners and blanket-anger. Professionals don't do this sort of thing. If they do, their business doesn't make it over the long haul. And your claim, "After 26 years of serving the Connecticut shoreline, we know what works and what doesn't for both vehicles and customers," can't possibly be what was going through the minds of the people I dealt with this morning.
One other thing, the rental car I eventually took possession of was filthy--trash under both front seats, also four bottles hidden beneath a paper mat on the passenger side, dirty inside and dirtier out. I walked backed into the office and calmly let the girl know. She earlier made such a big thing of not smoking in the vehicles--I don't smoke, but the person who used the vehicle I've been given did...cigars!--that I thought she'd appreciate knowing just what kind of mess I found (and I will bring back to your dealership, you can bet on that). To accentuate the point, I carried in just one of the cups--the one left in the console cup holder--and handed to her, after first asking where I could dispose of it.
Thinking you've got some internal morale building to do,
XXXXXXXX-still waiting for a call from your mechanic-XXXXXXXXXX
Well, (this is not part of the letter, but my continuing missive to the chatters) I know this is not your usual Ford chat talk thingy, but, like I asked in the title: Ford had a banner year? How? And is this a B horror-movie? The outcome of this was: I got a call from the Manager. She reamed me non-stop for, like, 10 minutes on the phone. I asked if she'd really read the letter. She reamed me some more. I sat there amazed...so did my husband, who listened to the whole exchange. Manager said "Come get your vehicle, we think your personality will conflict with ours." I wedged a "Is Ford entering the Shrink phase of their business?" There was a lengthy pause on the Manager's end. (Which I doubt ever really happens.) I asked if she'd hung up? She began with the bullying diatribe. I broke the connection, went to pick up "Sir." (Yeah, it's anthropomorphization to the max! But he's clear coat black and beautiful! So "Sir" hit me right outa the shute.) And my dirty rent-a-car tab they picked up...as I'd suggested they should. I'm still on the hunt for a fix to the Escape's problem. I'll be back with whatever happens, hoping it helps some of you out there...and with less text this time:-)
#4019 of 4149 Re: no starting! [asus29]
Jan 06, 2010 (5:21 pm)
Sure, what the heck: First, this doesn't have anything to with "stalling and hard to start". Has to do with what I, and hundreds of other people have said since 2007--backed up by Ford's very own TSB and DTC publications. It's a "hesitation accompanied by a Theft light...mostly at speed, but sometimes while simply pulling out of a parking space. And, second, this has nothing to do--at least in my case and hundreds of other 2005 Escape owners cases--with Ethanol, because most of us do not utilize Ethanol but in fact just old Regular gas (as Ford recommends...at least in my manual--issued by, of all people, FORD. Thirdly, whom do you work for...and please avoid the "20 yrs as a Master Mechanic stuff."
P.S. Sorry if I've hurt your feelings, but there's so much of this sciolist pap on the web, in the guise of true knowledge I mean, that it's an insult to thinking and caring people...of which you are obviously one...I mean.
P.S.S. There will not be any direct e-mails, as requested by the mediator/moderator of this chat room...and a darned good request that is...!
#4020 of 4149 Re: 2006 Ford Escape [ap124]
Jan 10, 2010 (3:16 pm)
I recently started having the same problem but it is more intermittent. It started happening in cold weather but I donít know if that is a factor. Three times in the last 3 weeks the car will not start. It will not crank. The only sound is a relay contacting behind the dash board. In one case it started ten minutes later and was fine for about a week. When it happened a second time it would not start all day until the tow truck driver tried to start if several times. I brought it to the dealer, where I purchased the car, and left it for over a week where it was parked outside. It started every time they tried it. I took it back and used it for a week, it was fine in sub-20 degree temperatures and now it wonít start this morning. In addition I have been hearing a clicking noise behind the dash board when cursing in high gear. Have you had any luck resolving your problem? If so what did they find?