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#2755 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [masidan]
Feb 01, 2005 (9:43 pm)
Masidan-and Dweiler:The old "Expert" here with one last post to all the Tribute folks. You can read back of some of my many troubles with my '02 Tribute LX/4wd, that I took excellent care of. I've accumulated some interesting info along my journey through MAZDA USA- Irvine, Ca. their reps and my local south Altanta dealer. My transmission just quit at 45 mph-Dec.9th '04. motor revved- car wouldn't go forward or reverse-quit. Towed in to dealer. Had just turned 62k miles, but we had it in for trans problems, since 30k miles, at just over a year old. Was in 3-4 times- they couldn't/wouldn't fix trans. Another ASE tech said torque converter was going out, which is exactly what happened- took whole trans with it. They won't fix it - they replace with new one. Wanted $3500- sorry fella- just barely out of warranty- your dime! My dad brought me up to do what's right, and it took me nearly 2 months- but I got the dealer do what was right.First, I was told MAZDA was out of customer assistance money-but they might come up with a portion of it, I pay the rest. I said NO- that's not right! This car is defective- the owner and service managers all admitted they knew of lots of Tribute problems, and I want it fixed under waranty. About 2 more "deals" were offered to me. Finally I found another dealer who agreed to put in a new transmission for $3000, and told them I'd just have it towed off, fixed, and let the lawyers have at it. I got a call in 2 days- a miracle happened- MAZDA USA found some cash and I got a new trans-at no charge! I picked it up this afternoon and immediately traded it, getting $4000 more than the dealer offered me to trade it in at his store. Bottom line- here's my take- perhaps this SUV isn't correctly designed to work with a lightweight Taurus motor and transmission- my entire front end had to be replaced at 1 year, brakes, rotors and tires all went at 2 years- trans at 2 1/2 years. I too had the problem of having it cut off, or not starting up sometimes. They took it in and "flashed" my PCM-what ever that is. After they did that, my gas mileage dropped from 19-24mpg to 13-17mpg. If they do this to your car, note the gas mileage difference. I won't go into the $400 I had to pay to replace 1 door lock. Kids- it ain't built right- never will be right, and MAZDA knows it- They are replacing it in 2007 with an all JAP built SUV-something FORD won't have a hand in. Oh, as I got my car from the dealer today- the 34th recall came in!! Gas cable sticking wide open-causes extreme power surges! Y'all please be careful in these SUV's. They look cool, work ok awhile, then look out! ZOOM-ZOINK!
#2756 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [bear925]
Feb 02, 2005 (3:23 pm)
I am not sure you know what you are talking about...
#2757 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [snowman]
Feb 02, 2005 (7:18 pm)
He is talking about TSB's (technical service bulletins) not recalls, and these typically only affect a small percentage of owners.
Just to put the 2001 Escape's 34th TSB into perspective, the 2002 Honda CRV has had 33 TSB' s...
Hey, at least the dealer/Ford fixed your problem well after the warranty was over.. I had a Volkswagen that was about 1000 miles over warranty and they would not even meet me halfway for an expensive repair.
Good luck on your next vehicle.. Just remember there are no guarantees in life, or in cars
#2758 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [masidan]
Feb 03, 2005 (10:52 am)
Thanks Z, please let me know what it was. I've turned mine over to a private mechanic here, and we're holding off shipping a rebuilt transmission down til we hear more advice on this fine forum.
#2759 of 4133 Tribs are not that bad.
Feb 03, 2005 (1:40 pm)
I have two 01 tribs that were bought in 01 and 02. The first one was one of the first vehicles delivered to the dealership and the second was left over inventory with 6 months no payments and 0% interest. Both these vehicles have been VERY good to me.
Problems I've had:
1. Transmission - small oscillation when shifting at 45 mph - ECM update and tranny flush fixed this.
Same issue started on the second trib at about 35K miles, tranny flush fixed it.
2. Leaky brake fluid cap, dealer replaced on both tribs
3. Coolant fluid sensor bad on both tribs, warranty replacement of entire tank. I had to take a video of this for them to see that it was actually happening.
4. Airbag light on - bad connector under drivers seat - warranty covered
5. Engine light - bad EGR sensor - warranty covered at 67k miles, yes that far our of warranty!
6. Brake light on on both tribs, kids spilled soda on the break lever in both vehicles, my problem! I sold the kids to a sweat house!
Gas mileage with 5 people and gear to Iowa 19-22 mpg. When I travel in Colorado by myself I get between 25-27 mpg with the V6 4WD.
I pulled a 6X6X12 motorcycle trailer from Iowa to Colorado. The trib came with a tow package and this was a large trailer. Head wind in Nebraska and I could only hit 75 mph when drafting a semi. The tranny spit out a bunch of fluid because the dealership over filled it! Once it was down to the 'full' mark and I stopped for dinner it was at the correct level and I had no more problems.
I have 80K on both tribs and I'm please as can be with their performance.
I had one stolen last sept and I was about to go buy a third one.
#2760 of 4133 wiring harness
Feb 03, 2005 (3:00 pm)
i have a 05 mariner, and I can't find info on this anywhere. I bought one and had them add the towing package. They put the hitch on, and the wiring harness wasn't there. They ordered one and said it was the wrong one because all that I needed was the one that plugs into the plug behind the bumper because that plug back there has power to it. Now they are saying that they are going to put the other one on, the one that has to wire up to the fuse box and other places because thats the only part that ford or mercury lists for it. My question is, if that plug has power to it, why go to these lengths to put this module thing on it, that is going to take them 3hrs to put it on, why don't they just tap into that plug and wire it up that way?
#2761 of 4133 An alternative
Feb 03, 2005 (5:42 pm)
We love our 05 Hyundai Tucson. Just have about 600 miles on it, but on that forum, very few complaints from owners who have had theirs since the fall.
Gas milage isn't the greatest but for a V6, its about average.
They are an excellent value, zippy and handle great, look sharp and are loaded with safety features.
Worth a look for those who are shopping this segment.
And no - I don't work for them - just a satisfied customer!
#2762 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [bear925]
Feb 04, 2005 (5:16 am)
Thanks for the advice. I talked to the service tech yesterday and he informed me that I had to do some 'research' as far as digging up my old receipts. He said I needed to find the receipt where I had my transmission serviced at 30,000 miles. That really frustrated me--you would think that Ford dealerships would pull that info from their computer database. My vehicle has been in the shop since Tuesday; I'd to make the phone calls to their shop to get an answer. The tech says I have to fax my receipt in order for the shop to get a new transmission--they have to replace the entire transmission. What the heck is a extended warranty for? I am fed up with the run around by Ford and will definitely trade my lemon for a Honda.
#2764 of 4133 Re: 2001 Escape transmission just failed in Baja [masidan]
Feb 04, 2005 (5:43 pm)
Dealerships only keep data beneficial to them.
They are probably just following procedure, because even with an extended warranty the scheduled maintenance is required. At least they're not trying to deny your claim. If it were mine, I would hang on to it after the new transmission is installed. Once you get the stalling problems, torque converter problems, and ball joint problems resolved they're pretty reliable cars (no I'm not being sarcastic). If you trade for another used car you may be buying somebody else's problems all over.
By the way, what part failed in the transmission?