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You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Mazda Tribute, SUV
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#2721 of 4149 Re: 2004 Tribute Troubles [bear925]
Jan 20, 2005 (10:33 am)
Just so I understand, are you stating that you put 50K miles on your vehicle in 2 years? Or did you buy it used?
There were not 33 recalls for Ford/Mazda Escape/Tribute. I think you were referring to technical service bulletins (TSB's) which are not the same as a recall. And to put this in perspective, Mazda Tribute has 33 and Honda CRV has 32.. Fact is, every car that has been around for several years is going to have TSB's, and the majority of these TSB's only impact a minority of owners. My Tribute has never had any issues due to to a TSB, but I have only had it for about 4K miles now
I understand your frustration with your Tribute, but if you bought this vehicle used, is it possible that the original owner abused the vehicle or did not keep up with the maintenance? The reality is that the Escape/Tribute is the best selling vehicle in it's class and there are going to be problems for a minority of owners. Go read the CRV boards, they have just as many issues (engine fires, cars pulling to the right and cannot be fixed, etc).
I respect people's right to complain and the fact that they want to share their experiences with other owners. At the end of the day if you have had frustrating experiences with a vehicle to dealer, it is important to let others know. At the same time, people who read these boards need to put this in perspective. To say that every single Escape or Tribute is a piece of junk because of a handful of users who have had bad experiences is not fair either. The fact is there are hundreds of thousands of happy Escape/Tribute drivers who have never had a problem (two of my co-workers bought their Escapes in 2001 and 2002 respectively and have had no major issues to date). These users typically do not post to forums though, because they have no reason to..
Anyway, just my .02 cents..
#2722 of 4149 Re: 05 Tribute Problemos [tributelations]
Jan 20, 2005 (12:25 pm)
My post didnít mean that you were a phony forum member. Since you have a new car and new forum membership...
I meant some othersÖ
For the loaner dilemma, donít forget that you paid for loaner car, this option is listed on your windows sticker. If they donít have any availability, they gotta go to Enterprise and get you a loaner, period.
#2723 of 4149 Re: 05 Tribute Problemos [snowman]
Jan 20, 2005 (2:20 pm)
Re Loaner - Next time I won't be so accommodating, and believe me, I've got a short fuse when it comes to lousy service - not next time. You gotta make noise (not unlike their products) in order to get heard, get a loaner, and get things fixed!!!
Jan 20, 2005 (6:23 pm)
I had a 2001 Mazda Tribute V6 LX which was on a 4 year lease. I sublet it to my brother 6 months ago, and I leased another 2005 Tribute from Dufferin Mazda in Toronto, Canada.
Today my brother returned the car back to Dufferin Mazda; even though I had taken so much care of the vehicle they still charged him $350 for a cracked fog lamp. So the security deposit of $425 is now only $75.
I think all car dealers are crooks, Mazda, GM or whatever. When they want your sale they will even make a donkey your father; as soon as the cheque is cashed it's a whole new ball game.
All I can say is that you pay your money and take your chances; and hopefully find 1 honest dealer amongst the thousands out there.
I have also visited Erin Mills Mazda in Mississauga, Ont to purchase vehicles. Kept me waiting for 1 hour just to see a salesperson. As for their service, I would'nt personally take my dog in there.
#2725 of 4149 Re: Mazda Tribute [jchandra]
Jan 20, 2005 (7:44 pm)
Good for you, if a dealer gives you bad service, then I say boycott that dealer. When we purchased my wife's Nissan Sentra several years ago (which is now a 05 Tribute, and we are loving it!) we had a really bad dealer experience. The dealer tried to pull a fast one after two weeks of owning the car and told her that Nissan Credit could not finance her car at the low rate we got at signing. So, I called Nissan Credit directly and they told us there were no problems and we made a payment right then and there! We called the dealer back and told him we talked to Nissan Credit and had already made a payment. The finance jerk actually cursed at us and then slammed the phone down! Needless to say we took our car somewhere else to be serviced, and I bought my 02 Nissan Altima at the dealer that gave us excellent service..
I am a pretty easy going guy, but I am no sucker, and I certainly am not going to let a car dealer take advantage of me.
You must have liked your 01 Tribute to purchase another 05 Tribute? I really like my Tribute, and was very satisfied with my dealer experience. They gave me a great price, great trade in (Kelly Blue Book after quite a bit of negotiation), and also did not pressure me when I told them that I did not want any additional warranties, undercoating, etc..
#2726 of 4149 Re: Mazda Tribute [jchandra]
Jan 21, 2005 (5:22 am)
"I think all car dealers are crooks, Mazda, GM or whatever."
I totally agree but not all of them, majority of them.
#2727 of 4149 Re: Mazda Tribute [dc_driver]
Jan 21, 2005 (5:24 am)
I hoped You gave lowest possible evaluation mark to that finance guy...
#2728 of 4149 Re: Mazda Tribute [snowman]
Jan 21, 2005 (11:35 am)
I also wrote a letter to the owner of the dealer, but never heard anything back. Not surprised since I am sure the finance guy was told to do this to make more money for the dealer. I watched an undercover special on Dateline, and it turns out they try to pull this stunt (we need you to refinance at a higher rate) more often than you realize (especially to women). It is a total scam. Buyers beware! My wife works with a bunch of lawyers and they were drooling to sue the dealer, but I did not want to go through the hassle for a few thousand dollars and all the stress...
#2729 of 4149 Re: Mazda Tribute [dc_driver]
Jan 21, 2005 (11:41 am)
That is why I do all of my negotiating over the Internet and also get loan rates from my credit union and other banks. When you do this, it puts you in the drivers seat when it comes time to finance, and most dealers will either match or beat the bank. In the case of my Tribute, they matched my bank and gave me the $1000 Mazda finance rebate
I have to wonder that had I not done my homework (knew current lending rates and my credit score, and about the $1000 Mazda finance rebate), if I would have gotten such a sweet deal. But to be honest the Browns Alexandria Mazda finance person I worked with was very pleasant, and this was the easiest purchasing experience I have ever had
#2730 of 4149 Pet peeves? Re: Mazda Tribute [jchandra]
Jan 22, 2005 (1:43 pm)
"When they want your sale they will even make a donkey your father" ???
"As for their service, I would'nt personally take my dog in there."