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Ford Escape, Mazda Tribute, SUV
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Dec 29, 2003 (2:42 pm)
Consumer Reports online "Used Cars to Avoid"
"These lists are drawn from reliability data on 1995 through 2002 models with above- or below-average reliability. Problems with the engine, engine cooling, transmission, and drive system were weighted more heavily than other problems."
Included in the AVOID list is the Mazda Tribute(V6) 2001 & 2002. The newer models get better marks on CR. From my personal experience, I agree with Consumer Reports!
I am currently weighing whether to keep my Trib and plan on rotor replacement (based on reports in this forum) or trade this baby in. I've had the stalling issue at just a few thousand miles, IAC later, driver safety belt problem, brake light came on this week and that is just off of the top of my head!
Dec 29, 2003 (5:10 pm)
I hear you. If I decide to go with this, it won't be Trib. Mazda screwed me big time before (I had a 97 626). Mazda, doesn't stand behind the product even the product is in warranty period (stalling, transmission-replaced 2 times were some of the problems). They refused to fix my car, I drove to dealership and traded that sucker, took 2K hit. Took the pictures of my new car and sent them to Mazda with a letter. From now and then, I do my best to convince people not to buy Mazda.
The current Tirb/Escape transmission is my main concern that I had this crap in my X-626. Regardless of your maintenance habit this model has tendecy to fail.
Dunno, may be I get a second Taurus. These generation-4 ones are very good. That is what I am driving now. It's been very good to me too. I'll be around to see more posts.
#2370 of 4149 Tribute Brake noise ES V6 2003
Dec 30, 2003 (8:25 am)
I bought a Tribute ES just 6 months ago(6000 miles)..it runs pretty good, except the clunking noise whenever the car stops after braking. The noise happens right at the moment the wheel stops..especially at regular braking(it rarely makes the when you do hard stops!)The best example of the sound would be your old style bike brakes when ever you made a hard stop. Also, if you have people on the back seat, as soon as you start braking it makes a continuous low pitch noise.
I took it to the dealer, they could not find the reason..the brakes are good. But I know that when I bought the car it did not have this problem. Also, i have noticed that whenever the hand brake(parking!) is engaged, it makes a noise while you are sitting on the rear seat...usually, old cars with bad shocks make a silmilar noise!!! Any suggestion or advise??
#2371 of 4149 Tribute '01, disk brakes, trany reset
Dec 31, 2003 (11:24 am)
I had my ES in for service (same dealer as purchased from)at the 54K mile mark and was told by the service mgr that I had 10% of the disk rotor left. I questioned the price ($505) and was told that the rotors could not be resurfaced. I knew the Mazda mechanic and he said that the Mazda rotors were not as robust as other manufacturers, therefore turning them down was not an option. From what I am reading in the Forum this seems to be a common case. It apparently is true for '01 and '02 year production. Too early for info on '03.
RE: transmission "chatter". I had noticed early on (23K Mi) that when tranny down (or up)shifted from 3rd to 4th there was a vibration - similar to what you would feel if you ran over the warning tracks on major turnpikes. The Svce Mgr checked with Mazda and they suggested changing the shift (via computer) point to resolve. It worked and have not had any problems since then.
I believe my veh was assembled in November '00 - if that helps anyone out there in Tribute land.
#2372 of 4149 Priced rotors / 45K miles
Jan 02, 2004 (12:25 pm)
To any concerned. The aftermarket parts for the Escape/Tribute are out there at reputable auto parts stores. I just priced a set (2) of replacement Wagner brand rotors for the front brakes. They are $96.00 for the pair, a vast
difference from the OEM (which are composite and non-turnable). Raybetsos rotors are only nominally more per pair. I checked just to make
sure and the replacement rotors are turnable
and should be good for up to two (2) or three (3)
turnings. Replacement brake pads are about $60
for the ceramic variety (longer-life/low-dust).
The next time I need brakes I'm definitely going the DIY route with a mechanic friend. Could come in a few hundred dollars cheaper than with the Ford dealership last time ($480.00).
Snowman - I wondered if the tranny was from the
the 626 model and you're right, it is. However,
upon talking to my current mechanic he claims that
the particular tranny in the current Escape/Tribute is no more problematic than other
transmissions. However, I told him that from what others have said and I've heard that this model tranny may have some problems starting at
~75K miles. However, the upside is that improvements were made and upgrades were done. I
just don't know if the improvements/upgrades were
done pre- or post- Escape/Tribute.
I've added 8oz. of X1-R friction eliminator to
the transmission at my mechanic's request. I don't know if it'll help in the long run, but so
far no problems as yet. I will be getting a full
(including filter) transmission flush at 50K miles
and will add an additional 4 oz. of X1-R as recommended.
Jan 02, 2004 (4:08 pm)
My first problem came 32K, The gearbox was whining. It took me while to convince the dealer lift the car up and put it on dyno. Then someone listened the gearbox and they confirmed that it needed to be replaced. Now If you asked me how I heard the gearbox whining, well delaer asked me too...
Be alert for whining.
For your brakes, you decided well. AS long as you use ceramic pads (I used QS from Raybestos) you won't hear any squeak...
Jan 03, 2004 (12:36 pm)
60,000km (about 40,000 miles). No issues on 2003 XLS V6. Runs like a champion. Been through 1 winter so far and about 20 trips to the cottage (150 miles roundtrip).
Jan 04, 2004 (8:31 pm)
other chat rooms about Escapes/Tribs. Seems like most mechanics/techs are reccommending a fluid/flush of the transmission every 30,000 miles in these vehicles. I did mine about 28,000.. Spread the word to other Escape/Trib owners. Also, don't forget to flush your radiator fluid every 2 years. This too can save you some dollars down the road...
#2376 of 4149 Excessive Window Fogging
Jan 05, 2004 (6:44 am)
I have a 2001 Tribute. This winter, for the first time, I have been experiencing excessive fogging of my windows while driving in cold rain. The moisture built-up on the windows is so bad that I have had to pull off the road on more than one occasion - water droplets are forming on the inside of the windshield and door windows. This seems a bit excessive. This was not a problem the past two winters. I've tried every climate control setting imaginable with no luck. I consulted the owners manual and discovered that the a/c compressor, which removes moisture, does not operate if the air temp is below 43 F, which doesn't do me much good when it is raining and in the 30s. Is that a normal feature on a car/suv? Has anybody else had this problem and, if so, are there any solutions (other than continuing to tinker with the climate control settings)?
#2377 of 4149 Trans. Flush
Jan 06, 2004 (8:22 am)
I find Ford's 30K interval very unrealistic. Even tough I have Taurus, I get it done every 20K. Ford transmissions run hotter then other makes. Many people use aux.trans cooler. So I believe early is the better.
Mhynie: Have you tried to turned he heat on with AC on. This will increase cabin temp and your AC will kick in.