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#1773 of 4149 Another Tribute Stalling Problem
Sep 13, 2002 (7:01 am)
I am new to this board. I have been reading through the postings. I purchased my 2002 Tribute on 12/1/01. (Manufactured in 11/01) On 5/3/02, my battery died. My Tribute has stalled out on me 3 times. Each time I have taken the car in. The first time they updated the computer software (6/21/02). The second time they replaced 3 sensors (8/14/02). Took the car back to the dealer on 8/20/02 for yet another stalling problem. As of today, the car is still at the dealer. The first two times were going down a hill at 30 mph. The last time was on a straight stretch of road at about 35 mph. So that blows the theory of only being on flat roads as someone suggested in a previous post. All the times have been around the same time, 5pm after sitting all day. Probably one reason why Mazda/Ford has not recalled the car is because it does not happen in every car. Also, they don't have a good fix yet that fits each car that has been stalling. I don't think this issue should be taken lightly. I have either gotten off the road or restarted the engine while coasting. One problem lays with the people behind you. Some people like to follow to closely. I cannot control that. So yes, it can be scary when someone behind you is not paying attention. I am too busy trying to restart the car to turn on the flashers while I am coasting. I think the people who say it is no big deal must have not had it happen to them.
Well tomorrow will be a total of thirty days in the shop. So that qualifies my car as lemon in my state. I am sending my letter to Mazda requesting a refund which is a shame because I really like the Tribute.
Sep 13, 2002 (7:35 am)
maybe it wasn't bess, maybe it was baggs?? who posted TSB information on this stalling issue..
I did not miss you point paride. I will say this again. I never said the Escape/Tribute were perfect. Its known from here to eternity that there were some initial recalls. What I am saying is people need to actually read the recalls. Some Ford bashers love to make it look like every single Escape/Trib made in 01 had these recalls, not true if people would actually read the recalls. I have never put anyone down for their problems. Where are you getting this from? What I am saying is there are Ford bashers out in these forums, you can login under multiple names and make it look like the Escape/Trib are very problematic. I have run into 11 people now that own both Tribs and Escapes. 1 person had minor issues, all the others were fine. I am making it a point to actually talk to people I see that own these vehicles and approach them, if they look approachable that is.
My wifes 00 Accord has been back to the dealer 3x! everytime I bring this up in the Accord or pro-Honda group I get slammed.
As I have said, I hope these folks that actually do have problems get them fixed.
#1775 of 4149 Reply to Scape2
Sep 13, 2002 (9:27 am)
It seems that you missed the point again. I give up. Maybe someone else in this forum can explain to you that the reliability of the Escape/Tribute had absolutely nothing to do with my comments. Rather, the interpretation of the same posted comments and perception of their meaning(s) may be different for anyone going through a bad situation vs. someone in a good situation.
Sep 13, 2002 (9:32 am)
The stalling occurs during engine deceleration (when the rpms are diving after letting off of the gas). It does not matter whether you are going up a hill, down a hill, or along a level grade.
If you own an 01 there's a good chance that the PCM (computer software) needs to be replaced and re-programmed. If they just re-programmed, which is impossible with the older PCM's, nothing will be different. The latest TSB's are very clear on this. Also, I've read elsewhere (might have been here) that Mazda has just released a new TSB that mirrors the one Ford released back in June for the Escape. I have absolutely no doubts that the June TSB fixed our Escape so you may want to check into that if you so desire. Of course, all of this hinges upon your service dept. being competent enough to do it right.
It was me that posted the TSB, not bess. It actually came from a website run by a bunch of Ford techs from around the country (if not the world).
#1777 of 4149 multiple personalities (OT)
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 13, 2002 (11:54 am)
I really don't think there's all that many members here with multiple login names. It's pretty easy to track from our logs and other clues, like IP addresses. If you have specific suspicions, blast a host an email and we'll look into it, since it's a violation of our Member Agreement to have more than one member id.
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#1778 of 4149 Just like new
Sep 13, 2002 (1:55 pm)
This is my first post, but we have had almost all of the problems posted here, including stalling, surging, poor gas mileage, etc. Our latest problem was the check engine light came on solid and would not go off. Then it became hard and sometimes impossible to start. We already had an appointment for the 30,000 mile service, so it was good timing. They found two problems that they said were covered by service bulletins. They replaced some relays and a computer module related to the emission system. When we got our car back it was like a totally different car. It ran smoother, shifts better, and no more surging at low speed. We haven't had it back long enough to determine if the gas mileage is better, but so far we love it. Prior to this we were just waiting until our lease was over to get rid of it, and now we are considering keeping it.
#1780 of 4149 sdg68, Just like new
Sep 15, 2002 (3:28 am)
What year is your Escape and what engine does it have?
#1781 of 4149 consumer reports
Sep 15, 2002 (1:32 pm)
.. was at the supermarket today and stopped to read consumer reports on 2002 cars.Tribute/Escape was given "best buy" status in spite of some of a couple af minor issues that needed to be taken care of under warantee.average score for the category was like 45... tribute got 56...crv got around 65 and also received a best buy label.
#1782 of 4149 <<<what he said
Sep 15, 2002 (1:39 pm)
id like to echo tidesters comments.... i come here expecting to have people talking about the issues in a dispassionate way... satisfied or not... aftermarket products.. prices..and deals.. instead.. it becomes an EGO driven defense of one brand or another... as if its a sports bar.. and were arguing over which team is better! we know the issues pro and con we know the prices... go drive the cars/ pick the one that you like... and let us all enjoy our purchase(or not)... which EVER car... without the need to defend that decision!!!