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Ford Expedition, SUV
May 11, 2002 (8:10 am)
Well, you will enjoy an Expedition much more then a Jeep. Last auto show I went and sat in a brand new Jeep and I have to say that the seats are horrible. The Expedition seats are much better. I have a 4.6 Expy and havent had any problems yet. Iam at 100K miles exactly. Its a 1997. BTW, I also own an F150. The major difference between a 97-98 and a 99-02 is the front bumper. The 99+ has one that is almost all plastic. I heard about the gasket problem also but dont know of any one thats had it. Good luck finding a new truck, you can never go wrong with a Ford.
#755 of 1710 2003 Expedition quotes
May 11, 2002 (2:57 pm)
I have received two quotes for a 2003 Expedition XLT Premium 4WD with Advance trac, power moonroof, premium stereo/CD changer, reverse sensing system & safety canopy.
Quote 1: $612 over TMV. The dealer indicated this quote was $400 over invoice.
Quote 2: -$262 below TMV and any additional applicable incentive (if available) once the vehicle is deliver. The dealer indicated this qoute was at invoice.
#756 of 1710 expy2003jj
May 11, 2002 (3:12 pm)
Anything at or over TMV means you are paying too much. You should get something at invoice or within 500 over invoice
May 11, 2002 (3:41 pm)
I'm geting close to purchasing a 99 Expedition and would like to get more info on EXACTLY
how to spot the right side head gasket problem
TSB: 01-12-2 JUN 01 Head Gasket - Right Hand Side Oil Leak .
The truck came off lease with 47k and I should be able to spot any oil leaks by now. I noticed that 'alwaysford' posted a partial cut/paste of the TSB in a post but I am looking for more detailed info on reconizing the problem myself (photos?). Anyway let me know, I'm taking out the truck tomorrow afternoon and would like to get some insight if this truck has the defect.
Thanks in advance!
May 13, 2002 (4:59 am)
You are not going to notice the problem where the vehicle is parked, you need to look at the car itself. The leak is such that the oil drips onto the exhaust and burns away before it has a chance to get to the ground. To look directly at the source of the leak you will need to go under the right hand side of the motor, and follow the exhaust to where it starts to turn up towards the header. If you look beyond the exhaust pipe at that point you will be looking at the rear of the cylinder head. All should be dry and dusty up there. (In general, the underside of the vehicle should always look dry and dusty). If it looks overly clean you should be suspect of a steam cleaning job to remove the leaking oil. If it is a Ford dealer selling the car, you could also ask if it has had the heads replaced, it should be in it's service record.
May 13, 2002 (12:09 pm)
I took the truck for an extended drive today (25 miles up to 80 Mph) and all seems well. Very slight vibration from the right front. Crawled under and got a good look athe the rear of the passenger head. It looks the same as the drivers side, little dirty/dusty but no sigh of oil so I think I'm safe. I'll run the vin for carfax but all the bumber and fender bolts look original with no sins. The interior is a little beat up, some stains in the rear seats but I think I can get it cleaned up (I prefer cloth over leather here in Florida, it was about 92 degrees today). It has not been detailed so I'm pretty sure the engine has not been cleaned up. There is the normal oil spillage around the filter (from changes) and very little wear/tear underneath (Florida car). Thanks for the info!
#760 of 1710 Just Ordered a 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition
May 13, 2002 (5:47 pm)
I Just placed an order "today" for a 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition. My local dealer quoted me $465 "under invoice". Options included the DVD entertainment system, heated/cooled seats, power moonroof & 3rd Row Power Seat.
No hassles at all, the dealer was more than willing to work off of the invoice I had downloaded from consumer reports. They even acknowledged the $1236 dealer holdback from Ford and gave me some of that to close the deal.
Now, I just have to wait to see how long it takes to get the thing built & delivered. Can't wait!
#761 of 1710 Wow nyrhkyfan -- Great price
May 14, 2002 (5:59 am)
Assuming you are in New York, right? That is a really good price. Congratulations! What is the delivery timeframe? Also, did you have to give them a non-refundable deposit of $500?
#762 of 1710 Just Ordered a 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition
May 14, 2002 (4:25 pm)
Congrats! That price looks great. I'm in the X-plan and it still looks good! Let us know what you think about the vehicle on delivery. Care to share your invoice price with us? Holdbacks are hard to get a piece of. Again Conrats!
#763 of 1710 pduffy4 - Electrical Problem - Post 725
May 14, 2002 (8:06 pm)
Seems that a loose ground on the starter motor might cause hard starting more so then running down a battery. If you didn`t have hard starting problems I think that they were blowing smoke - had to say they did something. Hopefully they have verified that the alternator circuit is o.k.
Would be interested to ask if service troops has checked for high parasitic current levels. They should at the least monitor current drains immediately after motor shut down and again after 30 minutes, Strongly suspect you have a unusual permanent current drain from some defective device. If so they can remove a fuse at a time to see what circuit is causing the drain.
There are some very sensitive clamp type current meters which work with a fluke or other good multimeter. Of course the advantage of clamp meters is that you don`t open the circuits which could allow the condition to change.
Don`t shoot me for my name on this board. Since no one else seemed to help I thought I would add my 2 cents.
Will test drive a new Ford SUV since I am very unhappy with the lack of options from Chevy. May even buy a NAV. At least will try several brands. Just thought I would check out this site to see what concerns your gang.