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Ford Expedition, SUV
Jul 25, 2001 (4:55 pm)
I've been looking at used Expeditions and Explorers and have noticed the dropoff, too. Great for a used car buyer. Given that Ford is discounting the 2002 Explorer severely, what do you expect?
The market for large and midsize SUV's is getting more competitive by the day.
I'm going to wait another 6 months. The economy will get worse before it gets better and more SUV supply will hit the market.
#464 of 1710 Glad I Bought the Extended Warranty
Jul 25, 2001 (7:40 pm)
I'm glad I bought the extended warranty on my '98 EB 4WD Expedition. I had a '97 Expedition that I leased for 3yrs with no problems, and loved it so much, I looked for a used Expedition at the end of the lease. The '98 has been back to dealers 4 times in the 16 months I've owned it (now has 64K miles) at $100 deductible per visit:
1. At 46K miles, the EXP started "bucking" at 65mph, the check engine light came on - a leak in hose caused antifreeze to drip on spark plug (Ford dealer said he's worked on 7 Expeditions with the same problem - why hasn't there been a recall???;
2. Windshield wiper fluid for front window wouldn't squirt (one for rear window works fine!) My '97 had a recall for this....
3. Intermittent starter problems (about every 20 times the truck was started, a horrendous sound occurred as if you were starting the truck, but it's already running) at 50K damaged the starter and flywheel - first Ford dealer told me there was no problem; the 2nd found it.
4. Driver side window motor quit, then window regulator needing replacing.
The Goodyear Wrangler RT/S tires have lasted 64k miles, and will need to be replaced soon. The ride is much harder than the '97 with the same tires - might need new shocks also. My husband just put BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires on his GMC pickup, and the ride is terrific. Wondered if anyone had any experience with BF Goodrich replacement tires on their Expedition? And what kind of shocks are recommended for a smoother ride?
I still love the truck despite the problems, but that's probably my fault for buying a used truck with 42K miles from a bad dealer. It handles great, and the visibility is excellent.
As far as gas mileage, although the '97 was a 4.6L, and the '98 is a 5.4L, the mileage isn't that bad for the increase in pick-up (15-16 around town, and 18-19mpg on the highway) - I reset the mileage computer after every fill-up.
I'm big on preventive maintenance (oil change every 3K miles) and requested a tune-up from the local Firestone sevice center. They couldn't do the tune-up, but if they could, for this SUV it would cost $239, because they need special equipment (that they don't have) and because of all the items blocking the plugs/attached to the plugs? Has anyone experienced this? Will the Ford service manager's eyes light up with $$$$ when I schedule the tune-up? Even the fuel filter replacement cost double because of the extra labor with the skid plate in the way.
Just wondered if anyone else had some info...
#465 of 1710 to blv1018
Jul 26, 2001 (5:33 am)
I have a 98 expy. My front windshield wiper fluid will not come out most of the time. I have to continually push it in to get it out. Second, my passenger side window will not go down. I was wondering how you had them fixed? Are there recalls? Did the dealer say technical bulletins were issued? I am very interested because I also have this problem.
#466 of 1710 I've Got the Same Reverse Sensing Problems
Jul 26, 2001 (12:47 pm)
The reverse sensing system on our 2000 BE 4x4 malfunctions in the same manner as described in earlier posts... lots of false alarms, seemingly only in hot, humid weather. The dealer had it for a couple days performing a 30K service and said he could not identify any problems, nor had he had anyone else complain about this. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. I was thinking about pushing the issue, but don't want them just to replace mine with the same faulty sensors if Ford wasn't worked out a fix for this. 390gt's post gives me some hope that maybe they have corrected the problem. Let us know if it starts happening again!
I also would echo my shock at the extreme drop in resale value. Our Expedition has lost as much value in 18 months as our Volvo V70 did in 3 years! Guess we'll keep the Expedition until the sucker dies!
#467 of 1710 2003 Expedition - Independent Rear
Jul 26, 2001 (4:27 pm)
Does anyone know more about the possibility that the 2003 Expedition will have an independent rear suspension and lower rear floor and 3rd row which folds into the floor, as does the 2002 Explorer?
#468 of 1710 Independent Rear
Jul 30, 2001 (5:54 pm)
Does new 2002 Expedition have this already?
#469 of 1710 Independent Rear
Jul 31, 2001 (10:09 am)
fsmasek & wesyang: Don't hold your breath!
Given that the Expedition is based on a MUCH heavier, more robust vehicle than the Explorer, I seriously doubt Ford will switch to an independent rear suspension at this time (2002 and the next 5 years). There hasn't been even a hint in the press. Maybe the next generation down the road.
However, it is a change I would really like to see.
#470 of 1710 Inependent Rear
Jul 31, 2001 (10:49 am)
I was looking through a magazine that had an article about the 2003 Expedition. The platform will deviate from the F-150 platform it now has with independent rear suspension along with a fold flat 3rd row seat.
#471 of 1710 Independent Rear
Aug 01, 2001 (4:41 am)
Sorry, I was mis-informed.
I received the September issue of Automobile Magazine yesterday, and found that AM also believes/expects the 2003 Expy will have an independent rear suspension, allowing the 3rd seat to fold flat. They also had a spy photo of the grill/bumper. It looks like a new Explorer on steroids. HUGE headlights, with multiple reflectors (separate high & low beams?). The bumper was painted body color (no chrome).
The independent rear suspension places the Expy (& Nav) far ahead of the competition. Even Toyota's new Sequoia has a solid rear axle.
If only Ford can get the product launch correct. The new Explorer was a major embarassment. I may go look after the Expy has 2-3 years on the market to work out the bugs.
Aug 01, 2001 (6:37 pm)
With 63000 miles, I attributed age to the driver's side window motor conking out. Total charge was $100 (my deductible under the extended warranty) - no charge to fix the regulator they screwed up replacing the window motor.
Although I never had a problem with the '97's front or back washer fluid, it was fixed under a recall sometime in late '97 or early '98.
I'm betting the '98s should have had a recall also.