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#384 of 1707 Expedition -- J.D. Power Leader, and Only Double 5-Star SUV
Jun 12, 2001 (11:55 am)
J.D. Power's own quality survey has just named the 2001 Expedition as the highest quality full-size SUV you can buy. Sequoia came in fifth...lots of issues, which is uncharacteristic for Toyota...but perhaps they bit off too much with this launch into a new product segment. Read the Sequoia Town Hall postings to get a feel for the issues Toyota faithful are dealing with...
Also, the NHTSA website for crash test results (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap/), indicates that Expedition is the only SUV that has ever received double five star crash ratings. The new Tahoe scored only three stars for the driver. The Sequoia hasn't been rated yet by NHTSA, but the Tundra on which it is based also scored only three stars...the Sequoia being heavier but with a common front frame design could be worse. I don't know why Ford hasn't used this in their advertising, but I have seen it on the window stickers of new Expeditions.
#385 of 1707 Crash Results?
Jun 12, 2001 (1:41 pm)
I was glad to see the cash results you shared. Being the family car it made me feel better, but a little confused. I was watching 60 minutes or 20/20, something like that, and they reported the the Ford F150 recieved the worst crash rating of all large trucks, overall was 2 stars I think. This was the offset head-on at 40mph. I know the Expy is based on the F250 frame not the F150, but does it make sense that there is that much difference between the 150 and 250? I don't know, just asking if someone out there knows?
#386 of 1707 Saying Goodbye to My Firestones - Eventually!
Jun 12, 2001 (2:09 pm)
I received my notice from Ford regarding the replacement of my Wilderness tires (255 / 70R16). I am planning on mounting Michelin Cross Terrains in that almost all of our towing and driving is on-road. Has anyone driven them yet? My local Michelin dealers are telling me that there is a 4-6 week national back order on my size. By the way, according to Michelin, you can go directly to a participating dealer and swap tires at no cost to the customer. This is attractive to me since the Ford dealer said that I would have to accept whatever tires they have in stock - probably Generals or maybe Goodyears. They probably won't get Michelins for months.
#387 of 1707 Expedition crash test results
Jun 12, 2001 (5:18 pm)
Actually, the Expedition is based on the F150 frame, not the F250. The Excursion is based on the F250 frame.
I have to admit I was a bit shocked by the poor crash test result for the F150 in the offset test. I would guess the Expedition would not do so well, too, though there could be a big difference with the additional strength from the b, c, and d pillars. At the end of the day, though, the Expedition has EXTREMELY low injury and fatality rates. I think the F150 has pretty low injury and fatality rates, too.
#388 of 1707 First 1000 Miles
Jun 14, 2001 (6:21 am)
Odometer just turned 1000 miles yesterday. Averaged around 12 MPG with mixed driving, hopefully this will improve a little. Had to take it in for the drivers side seat belt releasing at random times. Looks like a bad catch. Also having them change the oil to flush out any junk that may be there. So far we really like it, just wish it didn't consume such great quantities of gasoline (at least it is the least expensive kind). The rear entertainment system works great. Will realy get to test this out on a 2000 mile round trip next month. I do need to get a 12v-120vAC inverter so we can take the Nintendo64. Ours came with the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S tires and they seem to be pretty good. I have not experienced the vibration referred to in many other posts (yet). Don't know about the rear wiper issue since we have not used it yet. Do wish they had put the radio and climate controls on the steering wheel.
I was interested in getting a console to go in between the rear bucket seats, anyone had any luck finding a good one for that? I did get a chance to look at the Steel Horse consoles at K-Mart and for $50 they seem really poor quality. Many of the van consoles will probably not work since they are made for a long flat surface, and the area in between the buckets is not exactly flat. Any help would be appreciated.
Jun 14, 2001 (8:13 pm)
I read w/interest writer's complaints about gas mileage. Late last year after I had just bought a oo expy someone posted to wait until the engine was broke in around 14,000mi. and keep the speed under 65 and 20mpg could be obtained. Thought this was bs. Last month my expy rolled 14k and on a trip N up I35 to visit our son in wisconsin my wife and I, not being in a hurry, decided to drive 63mph until we got to "Cabelas" in Minn. To my surprise I could only squeese 9.9 gals. Got slightly over 20mph. On a recent fishing trip to Canada we got 21 twice. 65 seems to be the cutoff point. Beginning at 65 gas mileage begins dropping like a stone. My expy is a 4x4 w/5.4eng. Previously, travelling the same route about 12 diff. trips during the winter, we ave. between 12&16mpg. going 70.
On the topic of tires. My dealer only has Goodyears in stock. Are the Michelins worth waiting for? Seems like those are the ones everyone is asking for.
Jun 15, 2001 (10:03 pm)
I've driven both...when I drove the smaller V8 it seemed perfectly fine and quick enough... the larger V8 was certainly stronger, but not so much so the decision is a no-brainer. I understand the 5.4 is 260hp. Depending on where I look the 4.6 is something between 215hp and 240hp (anybody know for sure?) Considering I do not tow, rarely haul more than 4 passengers, and only need the space for work stuff on a once-in-a-while basis, is the larger V8 worth the 2-3mpg difference. I had an early Expedition that had the 5.4. Loved everything about it but the 11-12mpg city milage. That 16/21mpg sticker on the 4.6 is very, very tempting. Will I be sorry?
#391 of 1707 Dardson1
Jun 18, 2001 (7:54 am)
The answer to your question depends on what you will be doing with the truck. I needed to tow a 5000 lb travel trailer along with our gear. The 4.6 wasn't enough engine for my task. The 5.4 has been fantastic for our purposes. I'm seeing between 14.5 and 15.5 mpg in mixed driving. If you won't be pulling anything, then the 4.6 will be fine. Still, an Expy with either engine is no mileage champ. If you need the room and utility of a full-size SUV, then you can't go wrong with the Expy.
#392 of 1707 dardson1: mileage
Jun 19, 2001 (6:00 am)
We just completed a round-trip from Denver to Vail last weekend (316 miles), and averaged over 17 mpg (one tank of gas). That's with four major climbs (2x Vail Pass and 2x Eisenhower tunnel) and running at 65+ mph. Our 2001 EB Expy only has 6500 miles on it, but I just switched to synthetic oil (0-30w) in the 5.4L engine. Needless to say, I'm pretty pleased with 17!
#393 of 1707 Firestone Tires
Jun 19, 2001 (8:41 am)
I got a letter for my expedition about replacing the tires (17 inch tires) At first they had the michelins on the list now they don't. They have goodyear wranglers & Bf Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A on the list. The dealer called and said they have the wranglers in stock and I can come get them installed. I hear that the michelin rides the best. Now which tire ride the best between the goodyear and BF Goodrich. And if i want the michelin what procedure do i have to go thru to get them? I will not be doing any off road driving. Just onroad driving.