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#1668 of 1707 2004 Ford Expedition
Oct 03, 2007 (6:10 pm)
My 2004 Ford Expedition has been reliable with 38,400 miles. A few minor issues that I had fixed when it was new under the warranty. Today I had it aligned and the tires rotated . The original continentals are still on with proba bly 35% of usable tread left. The place where I went to told me that I should replace the tires, because there are cracks on the outside edge of the thread. He told me its dry rot and the tires are dangerous to drive on.I noticed the cracks when the car had about 20k miles, so I decided not to do anything for the time being. Any opinions? I get wheel alignments and tire rotations every 5-6k miles as I have a lifetime wheel alignment agreement.
#1669 of 1707 Re: 2004 Ford Expedition [gheimur]
Oct 07, 2007 (7:07 pm)
I would doubt dry rot at 3 years old - if you have air leaking through the sidewalls, maybe you do. Otherwise I don't think so....
#1670 of 1707 Re: 2004 Ford Expedition [nvbanker]
by steve_ HOST
Oct 07, 2007 (7:53 pm)
Shelf life for tires can be as low as 5 years and "accurately predicting the serviceable life of any specific tire in advance is not possible." You could decipher the DOT code on the sidewall of the tire and learn when it was manufactured - maybe they are older than you think. (Uniroyal link)
#1671 of 1707 Reasonable review and Expectations
Nov 13, 2007 (9:44 am)
Don't know where else to post this, but I've tried unsuccessively to post on the "reviews" for the Expedition so here are my thoughts for prospects considering a lease or purchase.
There are 5 reviews so far and all of them have 9 or 10 on "fun to drive" and the "fuel effeciency" sections of the review.
Seriously, I know we want our "ride" to score well, but 14 mpg sucks even if it is as good as you expected. I guess if you expected 12 and got 14 you'd consider that great FE??? I knew going in what to expect as I had an 04 Expedition and got 14.2 lifetime on it. It's a "5" at best.
Fun to drive? I can have fun in my Expo; but driving it, although relaxing and having great utility cannot be considered "fun". I've had BMW's, (2) 300ZX's and 350Z, an Audi TT, a vette and other "fun to drive" cars. This thing handles like a 6000 pound SUV. It's supposed to because that's what it is. It's not especially easy to see out of and to back up, but that's because it's BIG.
Now as for the point system; it is not really a good indicator for the review because they measure things that are bad no matter how you look at it (like when they dinged my 350Z for not having a back seat, Duh). So ignore those scores and what you have is a very comfortable vehicle with a lot of utility. Nothing other than a Sequoia and Surburban really compares and if you've ever had to pull the seats on a Sequoia (I had 2 of them) then you'll find the third row folding flat seating well worth the price of admission. (Additionally both of them will cost more $$$'s.) Consider too that an adult can actually sit in the back comfortably and that makes it even more appealing. The Tahoe, if you look on the Chevy site, exceeds the Expo in diminsional measurements but if you sit in one you'll wonder just what kind of ruler they used. In the Expo I can cross my legs in the second row and spread out comfortably. Not so in a Tahoe. That's the reason I went back to an Expo after having a smaller SUV for the past couple of years.
I'm still out on reliability as I have not had mine long (another reason reliability is a poor review issue on a new car), my 04 had to have a rear end after 600 miles of driving and I see a lot of complaints on Edmunds, but then again maybe only the complainers post here and it's not a representaitive sampling of issues overall. At least that's what I am banking on since I signed the papers to take mine.
Also check out the lease (Ford Red Carpet). They do a great job of giving a great money rate and keeping the residual in line with expectations so if you decide to buy later you're close to actual market value. Chevy was way out of line on the residual and that pretty well meant a decent payment but no way you could afford to buy the vehicle at the end of the lease. I like the Ford's because at $23,000 residual in 40,000 miles I may want to buy this if gas has not hit $5. If it has, then I'll walk away from it and see what's new without being upside down on a loan.
I love this thing and hope that it remains reliable.
#1672 of 1707 Re: Reasonable review and Expectations [wvgasguy]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 13, 2007 (12:40 pm)
Thanks for submitting a review - those are scanned by real people to weed out the nonsensical and spam reviews so it may take a week or so for your review to appear.
Congrats on the new ride!
#1673 of 1707 Re: Reasonable review and Expectations [steve_]
Nov 13, 2007 (1:37 pm)
Actually I tried to submit an actual review twice and when I "clicked" the submit I got an error message. After writing all that out twice I decided to simply post my information above.
BTY, I give it an astounding thumbs up but want buyers to beware and know its faults (gas milage being the only real one)
#1674 of 1707 Re: Reasonable review and Expectations [wvgasguy]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 13, 2007 (1:54 pm)
Bummer -can you send a note to the Help desk with the Help link at the lower right and try to include as many details as you can remember? Like the time it failed, the error message, and what operating system and browser you are using?
#1675 of 1707 Cold + Idle = shutdown
Dec 04, 2007 (5:51 pm)
I have a 2002 which when cold (temp gauge) and when the engine is idle, the car shuts off. When its warm, the truck is good to go. We tried going to Ford but I think they messed up something as the diagnostic doesn't show anything wrong ... I think its a sensor of some sought but unsure... what can i try or look for???
#1676 of 1707 Re: Cold + Idle = shutdown [mcmushx15]
Dec 05, 2007 (10:38 am)
A warm place to live
#1677 of 1707 Press Request
by KarenS HOST
Dec 07, 2007 (6:13 pm)
A reporter seeks consumers who drive large SUVs. Please send your daytime contact information to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than Friday, December 14, 2007.