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Whine by alwaysfords2
Sep 19, 2006 (6:28 pm)
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Are you sure it is up front? The rear LS diffs whine also when they go bad, and sometimes the sound travels and almost seems to be from the front
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Re: Whine [alwaysfords2] by ahightower
Sep 20, 2006 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: alwaysfords2 (Sep 19, 2006 6:28 pm)

It's just the supercharger... ha...
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EL vs. XL by ahightower
Sep 29, 2006 (10:55 am)
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So I was playing around with the "build your own" websites for Ford and GMC. It looks like the Expedition EL is going to be about $2,000 less than a comparably equipped Yukon XL. (Suburban seems to be a few hundred less than GMC.) The major differences I notice are that the Ford has a little lower gas mileage, but in its favor are the fold flat third row and the 6-speed. The third row's not too big a deal for me. Only has to be roomy enough for children, and given that I have three and will use it every day, I won't be removing it or folding it very often. Although I would like them to keep their feet off the backs of the middle row, and I have seen photos of actual adults in the third row of the new Expedition and it's pretty impressive.
 
Style is a toss up. The new GM interiors are nice, I actually like the fake wood trim. The Ford has some nice touches too. I especially like the Ford's A/C vents, and the center-mounted, as opposed to column-mounted, shifter. And there is one detail photo of the Ford's gauge cluster that looks exquisite. I sat in a new Tahoe a few months ago just for fun, and found the driver's seat to be narrow and my right leg bumped up against the center console. Haven't been inside a new Expedition yet. If that seat is just a bit wider, or the console is mounted lower, that could be a deal-maker for me. I'm not fat, mind you, just long-legged. I've been inside the Sequoia and Tundra, and they don't have especially wide seats, but the console is very low to the ground, and the dash is not intrusive, so there is a feeling of spaciousness and your right knee doesn't hit anything. Back to the topic at hand, I also really like the two-tone paint on the Eddie Bauer Fords.
 
Only GM has the remote start, which I'd like with the auto climate control. But only ford has the ventilated seats. I wonder how effective those really are, but what a cool idea. And GM has OnStar, of course, which I fortunately have not had to use yet, but really really like the idea.
 
I currently have a 2005 Yukon XL. At the time I bought it, there was no other option as far as I was concerned, Expedition just didn't have enough room behind the third row. (There was the Excursion, but that was much more expensive). Now I can't wait until it's time to trade in our 2005 and try out both of the new ones!
 
Any other key points I've missed? What swayed the rest of you one way or another?
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Re: Cooled Seats by bronsonb
Sep 29, 2006 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Sep 29, 2006 10:55 am)

...But only ford has the ventilated seats. I wonder how effective those really are, but what a cool idea...
 
I test drove several Expeditions with the heated and cooled seats. The cooled seats were pretty nice. It isn't like sitting on an ice cube, but after the car has been running for 5 - 10 minutes (depending on external temp), you do feel a nice "coolness" on your back and bottom. It's welcome relief if you live in a hot climate. Note that it won't immediately cool your bottom on a 90 degree+ day when the car has been sitting in the sun. But give it a few minutes, and it will make you comfy.
 
Also note that the cooled seats have their own air filters that require periodic changing. No idea what those cost, but I believe you can get them through most auto parts stores and, of course, at Ford.
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EL XL by alwaysfords2
Sep 29, 2006 (8:30 pm)
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you can add remote start to any fuel injected automatic. Ford has a system and there are tons of aftermarket vrsions.
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Re: Cooled Seats [bronsonb] by steve_ HOST
Sep 29, 2006 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: bronsonb (Sep 29, 2006 3:43 pm)

"According to a recent study by the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), ventilated automotive seats not only can improve passenger comfort but also a vehicle's fuel economy. That's because ventilated seats keep drivers and passengers cooler, so they need less air conditioning to be comfortable."
 
Here's some more info about those cooled seats in the Expy:
 
Keep Your Cool....And Perhaps Save Some Gas
 
And here's Part 2, an aftermarket solution.
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EL XL by deeblok
Oct 02, 2006 (11:57 am)
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to the person whose lookin at the expedition/ yukon xl models...
 
On new stands, motor trend released a magazine comparin the el and the suburban and that might help. i dont wanna give the winner away but the winner won because of stringer acceleration, usuable cargo and people space and overalll capability
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We need your help! by tidester HOST
Oct 15, 2006 (10:20 pm)
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Hi, everyone. As you've probably noticed, we have been trying to refine the discussions into more narrowly focussed topics. Our objective is twofold. We want to make it easier for people seeking specific information about their vehicles to find it easily and without having to wade through hundreds or thousands of postings.
 
To those ends, we will be shutting down the general make/model discussions and work exclusively with specific issues. This requires us to populate the make/model subsections with relevant, interesting and timely topics. Rather than having the hosts simply create boilerplate topics for each make/model, we feel that you, the owner, the make/model enthusiast and the prospective buyer can best judge what those topics should be.
 
You can help by adding a discussion (it's easy!) or suggesting one here.
 
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Re: Cooled Seats [steve_] by autoboy16
Oct 19, 2006 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 29, 2006 8:41 pm)

My dad is looking at an 03 expedition thats priced at $19k It has dvd entertainment, ac/heated seats, power fold 3rd row, and tow package. It comes with a 1 year bonus warranty that includes 3 free detailing, and 3 free oil changes. Its the big 5.4l v8 (not the 4.7l) and with 43k miles. Is this a good deal? Our 4runner (1996) is worth 4.5k and they say 3.5k so its kind of irritating. We make take it to carmax.
 
He's at the dealership not and i'll report back soon!
 
-Cj
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Ford Lease Termination by crookster
Oct 19, 2006 (1:44 pm)
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Is it true that Ford is doing a lease termination program that waives up to 6 months? If it is I will speed up to manhattan ford and finally get rid of my 04 JGC, and sign a new lease on a 07 navigator or expedition EL. I heard that on the radio today. I believe it was 710 wor in new york.

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