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#1596 of 1707 Re: 2007 Ford Expedition [steve_]
Jan 30, 2006 (8:46 am)
Every time GM has updated the Tahoe, it has gotten a complete restyle.
This is Ford's second "major" revision of the Expedition, and once again they did an interior upgrade, some mechanical refinements and a styling change to the front clip. Why do they persist in thinking that they can use the same greenhouse, windows and doors (with an occasional tailgate change) over and over and still stay at the front of the pack? They don't do this with the F150 anymore, but they have with the Explorer (until 2002 when the first fully new body since 1990 debuted...and then repeated that body in the 2006 "makeover"), the Windstar/Freestar, the poor neglected Ranger (same profile since 1993), Crown Vic, Escape, etc.
I'm sure lots of money and engineering went into the 2007 update, but from the side and rear, even enthusiasts will be hard-pressed to tell a 2006 and a 2007 Expedition apart at a glance.
The Expedition should sell ok (within the now reduced sales levels of large SUVs), but the Tahoe will be the "latest thing", and that will give it a sales advantage (as long as most people do not find the styling objectionable...and it appears they don't).
#1597 of 1707 Re: 2007 Ford Expedition [steve_]
Jan 30, 2006 (9:30 am)
It looks goood to me! Roughly equal size, power, and towing capacity compared to the GMs. The main advantage appears to be the IRS with flat folding third row, which seems to be the main gripe about the 2007 GMs. Not a big deal to me because I have two car seats back there and it's not that big a deal to remove it twice a year when I actually need the extra space. But it is an advantage. I really like the Ford interiors. We bought a Yukon XL last year because I need room for stuff behind the third row, and there really was no competition except Excursion which we didn't like for a variety of reasons and cost a lot more. But now I can consider Ford again when it's time to trade. I like the new styling, kind of a blend of new Explorer, F150, and F250. Can't wait to see some test drives and comparison tests!
To the doom and gloom folks, I agree with Zman3. There is still a market for big honkin' SUVs. Soccer moms with only one or two kids will trade their Explorers for more fuel efficient alternatives. But the rest of us who truly need three rows and don't want a minivan are happy to see the new EL and Suburban on the market.
#1599 of 1707 Faded body side moldings
Jan 31, 2006 (3:12 pm)
I have a 2005 XLT. The gray body side moldings are beginning to fade. They are not the painted type like the EB's or the King Ranch. I have only had the Expy six months. It is always garaged. Around town I have seen numerous XLT's with the same fading problem, only much worse. Wondering if this is a widespread problem. Has anyone approached Ford and had them rectify this problem? I know I could paint them with Krylon Fusion, but I shouldn't have to. I hope Ford steps up and offers to exchange my faded moldings for painted ones. Whoever at Ford who decided to use these plastic panels goofed.
#1600 of 1707 Re: Faded body side moldings [scd]
Feb 01, 2006 (2:20 pm)
Krylon! Ha ha! It worked great for my old lawn chairs!
I see a lot of those too. Our old car (Geo Metro - yuck) had the big gray plastic bumpers, I just used armor all or the turle brand stuff. It looked good for a while, then I had to reapply. You probably want a more permanent fix.
Check out this website:
Also, in an article about interior detailing, it refers to the following product:
"Surflex Black Colorant works great on black bumpers, black spoilers or black rubber/vinyl trim that has been severely scratched or badly scuffed and is beyond the help of Black Again. Clean the entire part thoroughly with P21S Total Auto Wash or Wurth Citrus Degreaser, rinse and dry thoroughly. Mask off the paint and then stain the area with the Colorant and allow to dry. It will look like new. After about 3 weeks hardening off, coat with a protective coating of Black Again or One Grand Exterior Rubber."
Good luck with that. I am surprised Ford would produce something so prone to sun damage.
If all else fails, I wonder how much it would be to order painted parts from an EB or Limited from a body shop?
#1601 of 1707 Re: Faded body side moldings [ahightower]
Feb 02, 2006 (5:35 am)
A few months back an Expy owner posted pictures of his painted body panels. He said he used Krylon "Fusion". Supposed to adhere to plastics better than regular Krylon. But I'm not about to paint my six month old Expedition with Krylon. I also spoke to the parts guy at my local Ford dealer about painted body panels from Ford. He let it slip that there have been numerous inquiries about the faded panels and getting them replaced. I hope Ford steps up and does the right thing and gets the panels replaced for me.
#1602 of 1707 Re: Faded body side moldings [scd]
Feb 02, 2006 (6:39 am)
I saw another one yesterday. The only plastic panel that was fading was the rear driver side door, the rest of them looked normal. That only exacerbated the problem to me, made it really stand out. It is truly an inferior part they have used, the right thing to do would be to issue a recall and replace them. I know recalls are for safety issues, not cosmetic, but they could at least quietly upgrade the folks who complain to their dealer. This is totally unworthy of a $35K vehicle.
#1603 of 1707 2007 Ford Expedition
Feb 02, 2006 (7:05 am)
What happened to the rumored V-6 turbo-diesel? It boggles the mind that GM and Fordcan offer vehicles with the sort of mileage ratings that these things have. Why no diesel offerings? Mercedes, Toyota, and other major manufacturers are all planning diesel offerings in the US in the very near future. If Ford and GM don't act quickly, they will lose an opportunity and more importantly, market share.
Feb 07, 2006 (10:39 pm)
I went to goto work in my 2003 ford expedition W/39,000 miles, I press the unlock button on the remote. No lights lit up inside or out. I get in to start it, Its starts, My wife was at the front door calling me I tried to open the windows not happening. I'm driving down the street when I look to see how much gas I have... NONE of my gages are working, not a one. Tried to turn or the radio, Nope, no radio.. I get 5 min. down the road everything comes on. A note on the miles read out, reads check (Adwtrac), and airbag light is on... Get to work ok worked my 9 hours go to go home same problem, But corrects itself again with in a min.
Ford can't do a thing for me unless the problem happens right there. Anyone have this problem yet? only thing that seemed to work was the door locks, the dash lights were on, only the clock on the radio and the headlight and tail lights..It been 3 days now and it only seems to happen after the truck sits for more then 6 hours...The think that is freaking me out is when everything comes back on, it's like a power serg. All the gages max out ,the bells go on and the lights go on and then everything resets it self....
Feb 08, 2006 (9:38 am)
Drop it off the night before at the dealership.