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Ford Expedition, SUV
#1502 of 1710 Re: Power window repair [itsjustchuck]
Aug 04, 2005 (7:48 pm)
Same thing happened to me two days ago. I have a 2004 Expedition. It sounds like the same window set up as the 2003: wires and a spool. I pulled off the panel to discover the mangled wire that cannot be fixed. I called a local window repair shop and they came out to fix it. The entire regulator needs to be replaced. The regulator is the whole black plastic piece that fits on the door panel. This piece contains the motor, spool, wire set up, and even the speaker cut out. He pointed out what caused the spool to fail. The wires are connected to two metal brackets at the base of the window. These brackets are "glued" to the window using silicone. The silicone fails easily, bracket comes off, and ultimately adds stress to the wire set up. The new replacement regulator costs about $187 from the local Ford dealership and about an hours worth ($75) of labor to fix it all. Ford service quoted me 2 hours worth of labor, but the local window repair company charges one hour and they came to my house to fix it. I will have a fight with Ford in the morning concerning their "defective" window setup, but will probably get the cold shoulder due to my warranty being expired. I may have to buy a new window in the deal. The window repair guy stated that Ford is aware of this shoddy system, but hasn't really pursued a recall or service bulletin. I will see what they say in the morning. I hope this helps.
#1503 of 1710 Re: Power window repair [itsjustchuck]
Aug 15, 2005 (11:05 am)
I am glad I am not the only one. However, I don't think it will help me a bit.
My rear right window was "grinding" and "clicking' for a few months. I asked mi passengers (usually my son) not to use it, and they mostly obeyed.
Two days ago my son just closed the door (not even slammed it) and the window fell open. I removed the panel and found that the wire snapped. It was worn out badly. It looked like it was dragging constantly for longer time against something sharp (like knife blade). The plastic wheel inside the motor housing had its thread quite eaten.
I still haven't got a price from the dealer. I took the whole apparatus beneath the window out of the door and put a 1x2 piece of wood inside the door to support the window until I find a fix. I hope it will hold.
I am wondering whether these kinds of parts are available on junk yards?
If somebody wants to start a class action suit, I am on. This last is a joke, unless somebody is serious about it!
#1504 of 1710 2002 EXPE with no problems
Aug 16, 2005 (6:55 am)
For all the people in here posting about the troubles they have had, sorry to hear it.. On the flip side, I have a 2002 Expe 5.4 4X4. I have 58,000 and so far no issues.. the transmission runs great, no rust anywhere, no leaks, no weird noises,etc........ I read this forum to pick up on trends and try to take extra precautions in those areas of known issues. I service my tranny more often than recommended. I use 10w-30 synthetic oil instead of that watered down 5w-20 which in the extreme heat breaks down and in my opinion does not give your engine the protection needed. I use synthetic tranny fluid and so on... So, I have been extremely happy with my ford and would by another with no question... There are tens of thousands of expeditions sold, and these are just a very small percent of people that have not received a good vehicle and this happens with every manufacturer.....I just wanted to speak from the other side so people reading this do not get discouraged when looking at a ford suv or truck....
Aug 16, 2005 (11:32 am)
what kind of fuel economy do you get, and do you think its worth it to trade up to the 2006 Explorer that has 300hp/265lb-ft of torque (40 more hp that the 2005) and a new 6 speed auto that inproves fuel economy?
Overall would you still buy an expedition instead of the GM twins or the foreign Nissan Armada?
#1506 of 1710 Re: i was wondering... [exalteddragon1]
Aug 16, 2005 (11:55 am)
I can tell you that a pitfall of the ford 5.4 is fuel mileage. It is terrible, when a buddy of mine has a 6.0 liter in his GM and gets better mileage then the 5.4 ford. If room was not an issue, and fuel prices were too stay where they are, I would buy an explorer. I think GM makes a great SUV and truck, its preference. As for the foreign makes, they make great cars, but for the truck line, they cant touch the americans unless your just wanting something to carry the kids around to their soccer game...Look underneath an expedtion or excusion or a tahoe and you will see what I am talking about. The frame is incredible compared to your foreign counterparts..They are new to the truck scene and have a ways to go...
#1507 of 1710 starting issue
Aug 16, 2005 (12:00 pm)
I have a 2005 Expy with 11,000miles. Over the last two weeks I have been hearing a grinding noise on start up. It only happens on a cold start and last only 1 second, but I notice it. I'm told by the dealership (they heard it) that it may have to do with the AC being left on during start up. Have any of you heard anything like this?
#1508 of 1710 grinding noise at startup
Aug 17, 2005 (8:07 am)
I have a 04 expy and the gind up noise is common. When the ac is left on the compressor grinds at startup, something about the pressure. I have been to the dealer twice and to an independent shop. It is the ac compressor and nothing is wrong, just a ford thing. Hope this helps.
#1509 of 1710 Grinding noise at startup
Aug 18, 2005 (9:38 am)
Sounds like a loud BRR... I heard it, other people hear it. I am told its normal.
Don't hear it all the time Great truck and uses the same $2.50 gas that every other car uses . just goes 20-25% less distance. I was able to move my daughter from NJ to DC and can fit a box spring, mattress and Futon with the seats down and the hatch closed
#1510 of 1710 Grinding Noise at Startuup
Aug 19, 2005 (2:06 pm)
I've heard this noise twice on my 04 EB when I first got it. Sounded awful and very loud, like something getting to sieze up or come apart. Haven't heard it since. Have 30K. Other than having rear end problems (whine) which I hope they've rectified after the third attempt, absolutely love my vehicle. I echo the previous poster, it really hauls alot of bulky stuff. I've loaded up the back with a huge gas grill (in box), beds, trips to the nursery, etc. The only vehicle I would like more is a Lincoln Navigator.
Aug 23, 2005 (11:44 am)
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