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#8942 of 23397 Jeep Problems and no help from Company
May 25, 2003 (9:49 am)
Bought a 2002 SE 4 cyl last Sept and have continual hesitation, surging,missing and lugging 2000-2400 rpm's. Had the jeep back to the dealer 5 times and they found the problem and had a tech rep from the company come down to Tallahassee and he said run it a rpm's over 3000. Yet the vehicle manuel states that if one runs the vehicle at higher than normal rpms it will damage the engine. At 3000 rpms I am constatantly in 3rd gear due to the speed limit on most roads in the area of 40 mph. even on the interstate one must run it in 4th gear 65mph I don't have a clue when you are supposed to run it in 5th gear? I have had Wranglers since the 1950's and the last 2 Ive had have been nothing but trouble .My 97 had to have a tranny at 66000 miles and a new radiator at 72000 miles.They used to make them pretty good until Chrysler got hold of them. Last one for me, will trade it off on some poor unspecting soul . DO NOT BUY JEEP
#8943 of 23397 OK...need some advice/help..
May 25, 2003 (10:36 am)
I was putting the softtop back on for the summer (for the 1st time). I wasn't paying attention (a little rummy, I guess..) and stripped the small torque bolt holding the 3rd bow to the sports bar. Later, I was looking through the manual for something else and found a note warning that this particular torque bolt could be easily stripped, "Don't Over Tighten". Great...day late & a dollar short! Any advice how to get this bolt out. I don't need to worry for the next few months but will be a concern when I put the hardtop back on. Thanks.
Feelin' Stupid in Seattle,
May 25, 2003 (11:48 am)
What make of alarm? In general terms if it doesn't power up it's either dead, or it's lost its power supply. Check for a blown fuse.
#8945 of 23397 barresa62
May 25, 2003 (11:59 am)
To remove the stripped Torx bolt, undo it in the normal way while pulling on the hood bow to assist it out.
The easist fix will be to use a slightly oversize bolt. The sport bar will have to be drilled and re-tapped, and the bow will have to be drilled slightly oversize to accomodate the new bolt.
An alternative might be a 'helicoil' threaded insert in the sport bar. However, it's marginal as to whether the bar has enough wall thickness to retain one.
Finally (just occured to me), there's a threaded insert called a 'rivnut' which is applied with a pop rivet gun.
Take your pick!
#8946 of 23397 re:Jeep Problems and no help from Company
May 25, 2003 (12:20 pm)
"Bought a 2002 SE 4 cyl last Sept and have continual hesitation, surging,missing and lugging 2000-2400 rpm's....."
"Had the jeep back to the dealer 5 times and they found the problem and had a tech rep from the company come down to Tallahassee and he said run it a rpm's over 3000......"
Either you misunderstood, or the guy's an idiot. To say you must keep the engine over 3k all the time is ridiculous.
"Last one for me, will trade it off on some poor unspecting soul......"
It's still under warranty, so make them fix it. They either have to fix it, or buy it back. Why would you screw someone else over?
"...... DO NOT BUY JEEP"
I don't think you'll persuade many people with that story. It's under warranty, get it fixed. No reason for us all not to buy Jeeps.
#8947 of 23397 theronrohr
May 25, 2003 (12:23 pm)
2.4 vs. 4.0. No, the argument hasn't changed but the gap has narrowed (a little).
May 25, 2003 (8:27 pm)
Malmedy, I sympathize with your Jeep problems, however, your saying "Last one for me, will trade it off on some poor unspecting soul" disturbs me. No one should "pass off" a vehicle with known problems to an unsuspecting person. As it is still under warranty I suppose it wouldn't hurt the future owner too much but to knowingly do that...I hope you are just speaking under extreme frustration and wouldn't do that to someone. As a Jeep owner for many years, why did you buy a 4 cylinder Jeep? Yes it should still operate just fine but why anyone wouldn't buy a 6 cylinder, especially if you know Jeeps, is beyond me. I have owned 3, 97+ Jeeps under DC and all have been fine. Maybe you just got a lemon, it happens with all makes. I suggest you get it fixed (under warranty) sell it and either get a 6 cylinder or buy something that makes you more comfortable. As for me, I will always but a Jeep as they have been more reliable and enjoyable than any other vehicle I have ever owned.
#8949 of 23397 To all who are having problems with their Jeeps
May 26, 2003 (4:07 am)
Guys, I hate to hear about the problems you are having. My Jeep Wrangler experience has been such a positive, wonderful thing! I have had my Thelma Jane for 2.5 years now, and I have only had minor problems which were quickly corrected by DC with no hassle at all.
Most of you know the problems I have had, but for the newbies, here's a list of the ONLY things that have been wrong with Thelma Jane:
1. Water leak: The heater box was not sealed properly where it goes through the fire wall, which resulted in water running down the inside of the fire wall under the carpet on the passenger side and pooling in the floor. The dealer fixed this the first time and I have had no more problem with it.
2. Blistered paint on hard top: DC paid for a complete repaint of my hard top, and I was allowed to go to the body shop of my choice. (my dealer did not have a body shop)
3. Turn signals failed: This was fixed in two visits to the dealer, the first visit being to determine the cause of the problem and to see what parts might be needed. It turned out that I needed a new stalk for the turn signals, and when the part came in, the problem was fixed.
I consider these things to be minor inconveniences, and I am totally happy with my Jeep. The way the dealer corrected the problems so efficiently made a big difference in my attitude. Aw heck, I love that Jeep so much that I would probably still be happy, even if the "fixes" hadn't gone so smoothly.
I know some of you have very serious problems with your Jeeps, and I hope they all get resolved to your satisfaction. Owning a Jeep should be a happy experience, and I'm sorry that some of you are having problems that take away from that enjoyment.
Good luck to all of you.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#8950 of 23397 2003 Trans and 2.4L
May 26, 2003 (5:54 am)
Trans (mac24) - my overall warranty expectations from dealers are in line with your comments, but I do feel that Chrysler could be held accountable to a higher standard in this case. In my 42 days of owning and driving of this Jeep, I have suffered with the transmission grinding problem for 24 of those days. The dealer was notified of the problem when it began on day 18. It has now been idle at the dealership for 4 days and I don't expect to have it back for another 4 or more days. Other remedies are available to D-C than just putting me on a waiting list and giving me a Dodge Stratus to drive. My opinion.
2.4L 4 cyl. - This is the engine in my Wrangler. Before buying, I drove it, the 4.0L 6 cyl and the 2.5L 4 cyl. (2001). The 2.5L was a little underpowered and seemed to be working too hard in highway driving. The 2.4L did not exhibit this trait and was hard to tell from the 4.0L in all but power from a dead stop type driving. These vehicles are geared such that power to the wheels and general driving feel should now be similiar in most driving. The 4.0L has 190 hp thru 3.07 gears, the 2.4L has 148 hp thru 4.11 gearing. Between the 2.5L and the 2.4L the fifth gear ratio has been changed. At about 70 mph, what was 3,000+ rpm in the 2.5L is now 2,600 rpm with the 2.4L. The maximum torque in the 2.4L also comes at a higer rpm than the 2.5L and well above the normal highway driving rpm range. This is the same engine that is used in the Neons and PT Cruisers.
If I had to do it over again tomorrow (today is a holiday), I'd definately buy another Jeep with the 2.4. Although brief, it has been a good overall experience.
May 26, 2003 (8:11 am)
I will try your suggestions come fall/winter. I guess I may have gotten a bit impatient when I put the softtop on.