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#8098 of 23397 Jeep Quality and Long Term Ownership
Jan 27, 2003 (8:04 am)
hello forum..i am looking to get a new Jeep X or Sport 2003..a few questions and please give me some insights..
1. my sister has a jeep grand cherrekee and has all kinds of problems with it..nothing serious, but little things..windows, locks, lights coming on..my question is ..can i own this 2003 wrangler for 6 or 7 yrs..and put on 100,000 miles on it with no problem, or should i only think about keeping it for 60,000 miles..what are your thoughts please..
2. i live in miami..is the soft top going to be a problem with rain and water and such..and is it really that hard to operate as some reviews say it is..please share your thoughts..
3. pricing..i want to spend as little as possible (dont we all) but my meaning is that this is a jeep, a simple suv that is loads of fun to drive..my questions is will the SE be ok as long as i add air conditioning and a back seat..i have my won cd player so that is no problem..but is the SE ok..i dont plan on doing off roading, just beach stuff..thx again and i look forward to your answers...eric
Jan 27, 2003 (8:13 am)
Looks like some of the things you mentioned that went wrong on the Cherokee will not be a problem on a soft top SE since it does not have electric locks, windows, etc.
I'm happy with my TJ (sport) and I should think that as a beach cruiser, the SE should work fine. If you don't put in carpet, you can slap on a nice safari top and keep the regular top off all summer
#8100 of 23397 serpico1
Jan 27, 2003 (8:29 am)
1: Shouldn't be a problem, although all manufacturers build the occasional lemon.
2: Raising or lowering the top will take around five minutes or so; it's not a sports car.
3: If the 10,000 miles a year you intend driving are on back roads between your house and the beach, then the 2.5 will probably be fine. Otherwise....... I've seen many, MANY people who've wished they'd brought the 4.0 instead of the 2.5, but NONE the other way around. Remember that although you'll pay more for the 4.0, your eventual resale price will higher too. Fuel consumption is about the same for both engines. The 2003 SE uses a 2.4 which in theory should be a little better than the old 2.5. As yet, it has no real history. I suggest that you drive both engines with similar equipment. Chalk and cheese is the phrase that comes to mind.
Jan 27, 2003 (12:30 pm)
My '98 Sport has over 108,000 miles on it (I looked at the odometer this weekend when I was heading for my Sunday trailhead) and while I had to replace the exhaust manifold (something you won't have to do since they redesigned it in 2000, I think) and I've had the dash guage problem common to the '98s, but not later years it has been a very solid vehicle. The engine is sound, the interior still nice and I'm still a happy camper. So don't worry about keeping it for a 100,000 + miles. I plan on keeping mine for another 100,000 miles, I hope. And when I do replace it, I'll get another Wrangler.
Jan 27, 2003 (12:56 pm)
I owned a 91 4.0 and 94 SE at the same time. I got rid of the SE in 99 with 85k on it. The only problem I had was the catalytic converter started rattling some time around 60k. Brakes and normal stuff of course. Wranglers don't have lots of gadgets to go haywire.
The SE had a soft top, an older style. I live in Seattle, rain, rain, rain. I found the soft top one giant pain in the a** to raise and lower. It also got hotter than heck inside on warm days. Those side zipper windows drove me crazy too. The new top is improved but I'd head down to the dealer and make them give you a demo if you're concerned. Nothing better though than riding around on a sunny day with the top down.
I've still got my 91 4.0 with 120k on it. Catalytic converter got me again around 100k, other than that so far so good. A hard top, much better for me anyway. No way I'd buy anything but the 4.0 again.
#8103 of 23397 serpico1
Jan 28, 2003 (4:44 am)
Please take the time to read LOTS of posts in here, and I think that will give you a good feel for the reliability factor of Wranglers. You will find VERY few posts about trouble people have had with their Jeeps, and when you do find some, they will be posts about minor problems, not major ones.
I have had Thelma Jane for a little over two years, and she has been very reliable. I had a water leak fixed under warranty and the turn signal stalk replaced, also under warranty (the blinkers quit working).
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#8104 of 23397 tsjay - pictures
Jan 28, 2003 (10:46 am)
In reply to your message two weeks ago, yes, I'm planning on updating those broken links. Being self employed, work goes up and down - right now being one of those "up" times (which is good). I've been on the road for the last few weeks while my little Jeep is sitting in a dark garage. I'm hoping to get some time in the next few weeks to get back up in the mountains and then post some more pictures.
Thanks for the ramblings about the oil change, I'll be changing my t-case, tranny and diffs sooner than what's recommended.
There was some talk about gas mileage. Mine too varies greatly depending on the wind. I've had as good as 22.6 mpg with no wind driving 55 mph along the Oregon coast to as bad as 11 mpg driving against a 40+ mph head wind (60+ mph gusts) through the Columbia River gorge on I-84. Which, by the way, I had to leave it in 3rd gear(!) - couldn't even maintain speed in 4th. Gas mileage or speed was the least my concerns, as those big gusts would take me across two lanes of traffic and back. Under normal driving, I've been getting 16-17mpg around town and 19-22mpg on the highway. Back road and off road in low range, I tend to only get 12-13mpg.
Well, now I'm rampling... got to fly (literally)
#8105 of 23397 Um, tsjay
Jan 28, 2003 (11:52 am)
You bought the 2000 Grand Prix in March, and in October, you were ready to trade?!?!? I now see what you meant by "I used to trade often".
And I have 3 questions:
How much should a '97 TJ (Sport or SE) with Automatic, and 4.0L run? How about a '95? Also, was there ever a '96?
#8106 of 23397 Hard Top Storage
Jan 28, 2003 (12:00 pm)
I'm interested in buying a Wrangler with the dual top option, and I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to store the hard top in the summer. I found hoists, but I was wondering if there are carts or something with wheels on it so I can move it around in my garage.
#8107 of 23397 Tunes at last!
Jan 28, 2003 (12:28 pm)
After almost 2 years listening to the plain,standard AM/FM cassette that came with my '01 Sport, I decided it was upgrade time. So I went to crutchfield.com and decided on a Pioneer DEH-P77DH. This CD receiver has decent power and a built-in alarm, but most importantly, it fits the larger dash opening in the Wrangler without any kind of adapter kit. But of course,Crutchfield included free complete instructions and a wiring adapter so it plugs into the vehicle wiring harness. Installation was a piece of cake and so far, about a week later, I'm really pleased with it. It even makes the puny stock speakers sound good! Their days are numbered, However, because Crutchfield has some Infinity reference speakers on sale, and how does it go? Just Empty Every Pocket! Tjray, Happy camper!