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#8038 of 23397 Dual Tops - Remove One?
Jan 19, 2003 (11:19 am)
I knew it was too easy. I picked up my 2003 Wrangler Friday afternoon. It is a joy to drive and feels much different (smoother) than my 1995.
I watched the video last night and I'm confused on the dual top issue. The jeep comes with both tops installed and suggests that one be removed immediately. I believe the word "MUST" is included in the suggestion. My question is do I need to remove the hardtop to remove the soft top assembly or is there some trick to removing the soft top without having to go through the pain of hardtop removal. It is 5 degrees outside and I'm not happy about the idea of doing a remove/install.
What have others done?
#8039 of 23397 Dual Tops - Remove One?
Jan 19, 2003 (12:11 pm)
Don't be confused and unhappy..... you've just got a new Wrangler...... be happy!
(Yes, you MUST remove the hardtop to remove the soft-top.)
Jan 19, 2003 (12:36 pm)
Like Mac24 said...be happy ...and, yes you do have to remove the hardtop to get the softtop out of the vehicle. I did this last weekend. I got the softtop disconnected just fine but there's not enough room to negotiate getting the softtop assembly out of the Wrangler with the hardtop still attached. If it's any consolation, you only have to do this procedure once.
#8041 of 23397 ndovaras
Jan 19, 2003 (3:17 pm)
Hey, congrats on the Jeep! So you finally got the deal worked out, huh? You were posting about the dealer fee a while back.
Now tell us all about the Jeep! My shrewd, calculating mind has told me that you got the dual top option. (what tipped me off?)
How 'bout some other details? How bout some pics?
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Jan 19, 2003 (5:31 pm)
I own a 01 60th anniversary edition wrangler, and im looking to put bigger tires and a lift on it. Any suggestions on which lifts to use, also what is the difference between suspension lifts and body lifts? A friend mentioned Mickey Thompson tires, he has them on his 98 and loves them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Jan 19, 2003 (6:28 pm)
A body lift raises the body above the frame (chassis). A suspension lift raises both the body and frame above the axles.
Do you want your lift for function or looks? A suspension lift will enable you to fit larger tires and will also give enhanced wheel travel, thus improving your off road capability. A body lift will enable you to fit larger tires, period!
A body lift is cheap, around $100, and easy to fit. A suspension lift is more expensive, and more complicated to install.
Plenty to research!
Jan 19, 2003 (6:49 pm)
Like Mac24 said, be careful what you get into and be sure you do some serious research. Suspension lifts over about two or three inches start to get you into driveline angle problems, which requires correction. (You are raising your transfer case, which goes up with the lift, in relation to your differential, which goes up only by the difference in tire radius between the current tires and the new, larger tires)
Like Mac said, what is the purpose of the lift? Are you going to wheel that Jeep or do you just want bigger tires for looks?
This is one of those "I've heard" things, and not personal experience, but it is WIDELY held that a body lift of over one inch is not a good thing.
There is a very good lift by all accounts called an OME (Old Man Emu) for people who don't want to get too radical. It is a suspension lift, including four springs and four shocks. It is nominally a two inch lift, but people are getting three inches when they get the heavy duty version.
Even with the OME, some people have to use the trac bar relocator bracket that comes with the kit and do a transfer case drop for driveline angle correction. (The trac bar is what keeps the rear axle centered, and after the lift, the axle can shift to one side or the other, requiring the use of the tac bar relocator bracket)
What size tires are you wanting to go to? That will determine how much lift you need.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#8045 of 23397 Thanks for the Info
Jan 19, 2003 (7:43 pm)
Thanks for all of the great info. I'd like to get a 2.5 to a 3 inch lift, with bigger tires mostly for looks, but I will be doing some off roading (nothing major). I don't need a lift bigger than that, and I probably couldn't afford one. So I guess I just need recommendations on what brand of lift to get, and what size tire and wheel combo is good for what what I need. Thanks again, Adam
Jan 20, 2003 (4:52 am)
You are welcome! You'll find that we folks in here love to talk Jeep, and we are always eager to pass on info.
Adam, things really need to start with tire size. You decide which tire size you want to go with, and then you lift the Jeep accordingly.
Did you know that you can put 31's on your Jeep with no lift at all? I ran mine that way for a good while before finally getting a used 2" Procomp lift from a wheelin' buddy. I did not disconnect my sway bar while I had the 31's and no lift. My tires might have rubbed the flares during full flex with the sway bar disco'd, if I had tried it, since you get much more axle travel when the sway bar is disco'd. That's the very reason you disconnect: to get more axle travel or "articulation."
If 31's are not big enough for you, then you will need some kind of lift.
You might want to find out which rear axle you have, the standard Dana 35, or the optional Dana 44. The Dana 44 will handle larger tires with less chance of breaking. If you are only going to do mild offroading, and if you are not going to have a locker in the rear end, then the Dana 35 would probably still support tires up to 33". I sure would not go over 33's with the Dana 35.
I really think that OME lift would be what you would want, but even for 33's, you would probably need a 1" body lift, if you plan to disconnect your front sway bar for offroading. Otherwise, you would probably be fine on the pavement, but would rub your flares when getting full flex with the sway bar disco'd out on the trails.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#8047 of 23397 Finally, maybe a cure....
Jan 20, 2003 (12:11 pm)
The dealer at Santa Rosa called late Friday with promising news. Chrysler had suggested to them on Fraday AM to carefully check the distributor shaft. Sure enough, it was "binding". A new assembly was located and shipped out Friday. The dealer now has it and will install it today, then test the vehicle for factory specs-should be ready late today or Tuesday am.... (When questioned further today, the service manager said that Chrysler stated that "several" of them have caused problems (bad bearings), but doesn't know how many, or any other details. When I pick up the Jeep, I'll be sure to get a part number, etc.
P.S. I know distributor caps and rotors have all but dissappeared on modern engines. But it's sure nice to know there's still a job for the distributor shaft.