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#759 of 23397 To Tsjay - Haven't had time to go out to look at and drve Wranglers yet.
Jan 07, 2001 (9:01 am)
Jeffer2 here. My Wrangler search is on hold for a little bit. I have a few other things going on right now.
I'm thinking of a new vehicle though because my current ride (a 1995 Grand Prix SE with just over 40,000 miles) has been a little unreliable lately. Last month I had to have a fuel injector replaced. Last week I had to have it towed in because the ignition switch/lock cylinder either wore out or broke. I used to have '91 GP that had over 200,000 mile on it when I got rid of it, but this '95 - I'm a little disappointed in. Too bad because it's a good driver, and comfortable car. Your 2000 was even better.
Anyway, that's why I asked a few questions here about Jeep relialbilty and dealer service. I'd also like to do some basic maintenance myself. The GPs are impossible to work on (at least for me). You can't even get to the spark plugs.
My brother used to have a '93 Wrangler he really liked, but he had to sell it for college. Only complaint he had was that the locks froze up a few times, and finally broke, and the tops were hard to install. Someone else I know has a '95, that he is really impressed with. I always loved convertibles.
Besides a Wrangler, I may look at a Ranger or Escape (I know about the recalls). I'll post here when I decide what to do.
How's Thelma Jan? Later - Jeffer2
Jan 07, 2001 (9:05 am)
I'm getting the jeep in yellow. I live in NY state. So I probably should get ac. I'm worried about the effect of the AC and power of the engine. We have about 1 and 1/2 of snow so I'll look into the trac loc. Thanks for your help
#761 of 23397 louburr
Jan 07, 2001 (10:06 am)
If you think you would only need the air conditioning for about a month or so in the middle of the summer, then I wouldn't worry too much about the power issue. Even if it is a little bit of a strain on the engine, you will only be using it a small percentage of the time, like in the hottest part of the day for only a month or month and a half each year. It would help you on resale value, probably, too.
You are right about the 4 cylinder not being exactly a power house. But, for a lot of people's needs, it does just fine. It won't do a whole lot better on gas than the six, but the inital cost between a Sport and an SE is ridiculous. For all practical purposes, all you are getting with the Sport that you don't get with the SE is the I-6 engine.
I do a lot of highway driving and have to take business trips, so I wanted the six for the extra power. That's why I got a Sport instead of an SE.
Yellow sounds good. It is a real popular color these days. It sure does catch your eye! I've seen quite a few, and they do look good.
Not just any dealer has someone who even knows how to order a Jeep. Be sure and find someone who knows the option packages and let them work up something for you. Even if you buy somewhere else, then you will at least know what you are getting. If you are not going to order from the factory, it is still important to know what equipment is available in what combinations, so you might want to go somewhere pretending that you are going to order from the factory.
Keep in mind what I said about the subwoofer, if you want a decent sound system without spending money for after market stuff.
Are you going with 30" tires? Jeeps sure look a LOT better with the bigger tires!
Catch you later
#762 of 23397 Happy New Year...belated.
Jan 07, 2001 (10:47 am)
Happy New Year all! Man, go away and everything changes. The forum is new and TSJAY has his Jeep! Way to go! Ok, let me see if I can actually post based on the complaints I've read on this new format. First, my new '01 Sport is now over a month old with 1200 miles. Average MPG has been 16.5. Pretty consistent too, and that has been mostly highway but also some 4wd. Overall, I absolutely love my new Jeep. No complaints yet. We have had a fair amount of snow in December in Southwestern Ohio, so the Jeep got to have some fun. What a great snow car. I opted for the Dana 44 instead of ABS, a tough choice, but let me alleviate some fears of those worried about that choice. I have had to re-learn my winter braking technique without ABS, but from my roots in Western NY, it came back quickly. Also, the Jeep actually brakes well in snow, locking up very little. I think the tread on the 30" tires helps a great deal if there is some snow pack. It is very controllable despite the short wheelbase.
On the dual top, I still am very glad I paid extra for both, but the hardtop benefits are really for cold climates or extended highway travel. Without those, the new soft top is just fine, especially if you get full doors. The hardtop is considerable warmer and quieter though. My only concern is where to put this thing come spring. I am looking into some hoist options. I have a garage for it, but don't want to take up my baby's parking spot for it either.
BTW, before I go, got a question. Does anyone use an automatic car wash with their Jeep? I wanted to run my Jeep through a car wash real quick to get the salt off, but was reluctant to try. I have the full doors and the hardtop is on, but wanted some input first. I would prefer to hand wash it, but in a pinch, will an automatic car wash do?
Well, greetings to all again. Hope to read and post more here in the new year. Could be a resolution of sorts I guess. Take care.
#763 of 23397 Kevinvsr: HOWDY!
Jan 07, 2001 (3:34 pm)
Welcome back! I knew I was forgetting some of my Wrangler IV buddies when I posted the "where are you guys" articles.
Yep, it really happened! I got my Jeep after that long, long struggle. Had to take out a home equity loan to clear up some of the debt on the Grand Prix. I don't remember what my situation was the last time I heard from you. Had I ordered Thelma Jane yet? Or was I still in a dither trying to figure out a way to get a Jeep?
Have you checked out my web page for Thelma Jane yet? http://members.aol.com/tjoh298765/thelma.html
Let me know what you think about her.
I got Thelma on December 8th. It was only three weeks and two days from the time that my order was placed until I was driving her. She has right at 1600 miles on her and she has had zero problems. My gas mileage is similar to yours. The last tank checked out 17.9, but she hadn't been doing quite that well as a rule. Maybe she's breaking in and the gas mileage is going up.
Did you post any pics of your Jeep? I don't want to go scrolling back twenty articles at a time to try to find your last post. I wish there was a better way to get around and find articles. I have talked to so many people and read so many posts that I can't remember if you posted any links to pics of your Jeep.
So glad you're back! Keep that posting resolution and be an active participant in this group again, ok?
Some of us were trying to get a weekly chat session going, but it hasn't gotten off the ground yet. Do you have Instant Message? If you do, holler at me. I'm tjoh298765 on Instant Message, so put me on your buddy list and holler when you see me online, which is about any time from 6:00 PM to 10:30 PM CST weekdays and almost any time on weekends.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#764 of 23397 kevinvsr: Don't do it!
Jan 07, 2001 (3:51 pm)
I forgot to put my two cents worth about automatic car washes into my post. I would never put my Thelma Jane through one of those things.
I just don't trust them. Even the "touchless" car washes use such high pressure that I would be afraid of damage.
I know how bad it hurts having a dirty Jeep and the weather being too cold to wash it yourself. I've just been through that myself. Yesterday was our first day with a temperature above freezing in about three and a half weeks. I washed Thelma today, and she is LOOKING GOOD! I just about froze off my fingers (and other appendages), but it was worth it.
#765 of 23397 2001 transmissions
Jan 07, 2001 (4:23 pm)
Who's got a 2001 Wrangler Sport (6cyl) with a 5 speed? Any excessive noise from the transmission?
I test drove one today at the dealer and it made a lot of noise while in neutral, but when I put it gear (or just depressed the clutch pedal) it went away.
I know the 2000s had lots of complaints regarding this, but do all who have the 2001 model notice this?
#766 of 23397 gcl98: mine doesn't
Aug 04, 2000 (6:15 pm)
Thelma Jane doesn't do that, and she's a 2001 Sport with the 5-speed. I thought maybe they had that fixed in the 2001's.
I read in this group somewhere that the noisy tranny was due to misalignment of the engine and the tranmission, caused by a problem with dowel pins. At least I think it was in this group that I read that.
There's no noise at all with mine when the transmission is in neutral and the clutch is out. I am not having any problem shifting, either, which I thought was supposed to go along with the noisy neutral problem.
Mr. 2001wrangler has posted that his 5-speed 2001 Sport doesn't have the problem either.
What about the rest of you guys (and gals)?
Oh, by the way, mine was just built on Dec. 5th, since it was a factory order, so maybe the ones made after a certain date did not have the problem???
#767 of 23397 dragonfly
Jan 07, 2001 (6:48 pm)
Great TJ web page. It's nice to see action shots of TJs on the trail.
How well does that rack work with the dual tops? I imagine it's got to come off to remove the hard top for the summer. Does it interfere with the operation of the fold-down soft top?
Jan 07, 2001 (7:48 pm)
Yea go for it... as long as you've got the hard top it won't hurt it. I did it several times before I put my rack on and it did fine, no leaks, no scratches... plus paiting a hard top is a piece of cake. I had to do some touch up after I dropped some wrenches on it while putting the Daylighters on. They just don't recomend going through with the soft top one, the brissles can scratch the windows.