Jeep Wrangler

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#5979 of 23393 I Finally Did IT!!! by coons10

Jun 27, 2002 (11:19 am)

I brought home a brand spanking new 2002 Jeep Wrangler X Sienna Pearlcoat for about $1,300 less than Edmunds TMV price. (There are rebates involved here too. I'm not quite THAT good a negotiator) But after 4 visits to the dealer and four different salesman, I think we finally got it right.
 
My wife and I took it for a spin last night here in Columbus, Ohio and had a blast!
 
Thanks to ewylie for giving me some sage advice concerning my purchase. (I emailed you a couple of weeks ago.) I'm happy to become a member of the wrangler family. (I just gotta start getting used to looking for other wranglers to wave to.)

#5980 of 23393 mtngal by jptj

Jun 27, 2002 (11:28 am)

I was in Roanoke Virginia last week regular was 1.07, home in south central Virginia it's 1.14 and at work in Greenbelt Maryland it's 1. 47. When you leave the country and go to the big cities gas is high even on the east coast
Have a good day Walt

#5981 of 23393 Advice on a Bikini Top by coons10

Jun 27, 2002 (11:31 am)

I am considering a bikini top. Any suggestions whether a no drill header is just as good and drill header? What are the main differences?
 
Thanks All!
 
Jim

#5982 of 23393 huckhill by goducks1

Jun 27, 2002 (11:41 am)

Actually, my Jeep is "Moss Green" (figures, since I bought it in Oregon). I think they stopped that color in 1999 (mine is a 1998). I actually wanted a blue Jeep but for some reasons 1998 was the one year you couldn't get blue, so I went for the better looking green--they had an "Emerald Green" too in 1998 but it didn't match the spice tops very well. I'd get a Sienna Sahara if I were buying one right now.
 
Mtngal--gas is even cheaper in San Diego than L.A. right now, which is not normally the case. Somebody's always getting ripped off somewhere by those stupid evil gas companies.

#5983 of 23393 huckhill and coons10 by oceantoad

Jun 27, 2002 (11:45 am)

Huckhill, one more comment on the sienna color. My other half describes it as a cranberry that has gone bad. I still like it. For what it is worth I have some pictures of mine at home.earthlink.net/~oceantoad/
 
Coons10, way to go. Hope you enjoy your X. I have a sienna Sport and am very happy with the color. All I know about the no drill header is that you have to take it off to put your soft top back up. With the one that you drill, you can leave the header on and put on your soft top. The other thing I know about the no drill is I am a coward when it comes to drilling holes in my Sport.
 
Still a happy camper.

#5984 of 23393 toad by goducks1

Jun 27, 2002 (11:50 am)

Acually, I'd just steal Oceantoad's TJ if I were getting one today. The Sienna/tan combo looks great. One thing about the tan interiors, though, is that they can show dirt pretty easily. I have the older "spice" interior and it's not looking so clean after 4 years of use. I'm sure there is some cleaner I could use to take care of that though.

#5985 of 23393 goducks1 by oceantoad

Jun 27, 2002 (12:11 pm)

There go my insurance rates. Guess it is time to buy "The Club" for my steering wheel. Watch out for the attack cat when you come down the drive:)
 
I have already bought seat covers and Husky floor liners, but I have dust in and on every place that could have dust. I would imagine that the covers for the sport and sound bar will be pretty nasty in a couple of years and they are black.
 
Still a happy camper.

#5986 of 23393 coons 10 - bikini by markwarren66

Jun 27, 2002 (1:21 pm)

Coons10 - I just ordered a bikini with the "drill" header. I will be installing it next week, and I'll let you know how it goes. From what I've heard, the drill type is better b/c once it on, you don't have to mess with it again. Also, the drill version is cheaper. I have not drilled into my TJ yet, so this will be a first. But I figure I need to get over that with other mods to come...
 
Hope that helps-

#5987 of 23393 misc - drill header, Coons10, toady... by twylie

Jun 27, 2002 (1:54 pm)

I've got the drill header and bought it for the above mentioned reasons (don't have to remove when putting the top back up). Having gone through the drilling and seeing how the soft top clamps now fit, this is definitely a measure, check fit, measure, check clearance, measure, cross fingers, drill procedure. I don't want to scare anyone off, but just make sure you get it right the first time. I seem to have enough stuff and tools I carry in the Jeep, this was one less thing to futz with by going with the drill version. The issues I ran into with the soft top clamps were not a problem at all while we ran the soft top during last winter. My install pics and writeup if you want to review before taking the drill to your Jeep:
http://www.ewylie.com/jeep/mods.htm#bikini

Coons10 - Congrats! Sounds like a great Jeep. Sounds like you got a really fantastic deal. I really like the Sienna color as well and I guess I'm second in line (behind goducks) to steal oceantoads!

Oceantoad/markwarren66 - once you drill that first hole in the Jeep, the rest are easy! I remember drilling holes for the TurboCity bars the second day we had the Jeep. While I was working on them, my wife kept wandering through the garage double checking to make sure I knew what I was doing (valid concern on her part!). If you're planning on leaving the bikini on for extended periods, the no drill may make more sense, but we generally just throw ours on for rain clouds or longer drives on super hot days. It rolls up pretty small so I can just toss it in the back. It's nice to be able to add or remove it quickly.

-twylie

#5988 of 23393 bikini lines by anonymous02

Jun 27, 2002 (2:31 pm)

Here is what Bestop had to say:
 
Me(original question):
 
Question: I am interested in a bikini top for my 1997 Wrangler TJ. What is the advantage/disadvantage to the header bikini? Is the safari a header or non-header model? I want simplicity and durability. I mainly want this for some sun protection while on the road, and also to keep the dog cool in back. I like the regular factory top with sides and back removed, but it can be noisy and flutter a lot. If the bikini flutters also, I probably won\'t even bother with it.
 
Bestop reply:
 
Hi , Basically there is 2 styles of bikinis and for both styles there is 2 versions. One is the header version or no drill version and then the other is the standard drill in version. The no drill header assembly forms a clamp action on the windshield frame. The other version requires drilling. It drills onto the frame itself. chris bestop inc
 
Me (followup question):
What are the advantages to the drill in version? I'd prefer to not have to drill holes if possible, but if it offers something better, I might consider it. What are advantages to the no-drill version (or is the no drill THE advantage?)? Thanks again
 
Bestop followup reply:
 
Hi, they are both good choices and seal well. The main difference being the price. The no drill version is more expensive than the drill in version. The advantage is that the no drill is easier to remove and doesn't require drilling.
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