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#5118 of 23397 #4957 My Jeep needs a new home by doc55
Apr 08, 2002 (1:13 pm)
"Have 1999 Wrangler Sahara 5 spd manual, a/c, hard and soft tops with only 9,842 miles. Leased brand new in August, 1999. Three more payments of $389.99, disp fee is $250 and residual value is $14,542.00. I hate to hand them back a brand new car. Any ideas?"
How about this: I paid $13,500 for a 1997 last August with 53,000 miles on it.
If you want to sell that one, let me know, and I'll trade mine in and get yours. I'll make an offer right here of 14,000.
#5119 of 23397 oceantoad/tsjay
Apr 08, 2002 (1:43 pm)
My bad, my jeep's patriot blue with tan interior and top. No, my wife already has a 98 chevy blazer, and she's glad to have it since she can put all the stickers, bobble head animals, and weird seat covers on it that she wants to. hahahahah...
BTW, I'm coming up on my first 3K oil change, probably by the end of the month. I was reading on here last week that there were some things that I should do (other than the obvious "oil change"). Anybody have some info? Hook a brotha up!!
#5120 of 23397 I6 reliability
Apr 08, 2002 (5:55 pm)
The jeep is the third I6 I've owned:
1973 240Z - 2.4l bought it with 105k and drove it another 65k, NO engine problems.
1984 Toyo Supra - 2.8l bought it with 40k, drove it another 140k, NO engine problems
Wrangler SPort - 4.0l <knocking on wood>, hoping for the same kind of service out of it.
Glad to see all the posting and congrats to all the new owners (lots of 'em!).
Apr 08, 2002 (8:39 pm)
Thanks for the kind word. I really want a new one. Get this, my Mom told me that a Sable would be a good car for me not a Jeep (cause that's a Chrysler product she said). I told her that Jeep though owned by DC is a separate division and part of the terms for the merger was that they left the Wrangler alone. I'm not waivering one bit. I've waited soooooooooo long to get a Jeep that there is no way that I'm not going to get the vehicle that I want. NONE! I hope to have around 6500 to 7000 for a down payment by then, which may mean that I'll have to get a second job. I've gotta get those payments low so I can manage if things get tight. Nothings gonna stop me now. If you still have your sticker bama email it to me so I can narrow down options that I want. Well folks, it's late and I gotta go. I'll try and check out the chat Thursday if I can.
Oh and congrats to the new Jeep owners...I'M JEALOUS
Take care and Hug your Jeeps for me
Apr 08, 2002 (9:43 pm)
Hey Deb. Have you checked out the Jeep Web Site to consider which options you want? You know you can calculate exactly what your monthly payments will be at www.Jeep.com(Financing Your Vehicle). I used it when I bought my Sahara back in July. Of course, I used the Edmunds site to figure out how much I should expect to pay (invoice prices). I paid several hundred dollars below invoice last summer for my 2001 Jeep. Those are the numbers I plugged into the "calculate your payment" section on the Jeep site. I included all the figures for taxes, dealer fees, tag and title, etc. in my calculations. I plugged in different amounts for my down payment so I could decide how much I wanted to part with up-front.
When I left the Jeep dealership, my monthly payments were EXACTLY what I had come up with on the Financing section of the Jeep site. Not one cent more.
You're definitely right though -- the first thing you need to do is figure out exactly what you want.
#5123 of 23397 dwrangler: a Sable!?!
Apr 09, 2002 (6:05 am)
Tell your mom that Ford/Mercury is not exactly a step up on reliability for Jeep. I left my last Ford in the middle of the Idaho desert with a blown head gasket at only 60,000 miles. My girlfriend's 94 Mustang has had a blown head gasket (same troublesome 3.8L V6, a truly awful engine that has cost Ford millions in recalls, YET THEY STILL MAKE IT), a rebuilt automatic tranny, and numerous small problems before she even hit 60K. My 98 TJ Sport has had exactly one problem in 40K miles, the faulty gauge connection thing fixed under warranty. I expect a long life out of this vehicle.
Not to mention a Mercury (ANY Mercury) isn't exactly a vehicle you aspire to own.
#5124 of 23397 monthly payments comments ( or maybe a love letter to my Jeep)
Apr 09, 2002 (8:44 am)
I think the most important questions you should ask yourself when financing a car is "Can I stand to make payments on this thing for the next few years? Am I still going to like this car in two years? How about three years?"
Most people I know finance their cars for four to five years. The cardinal rule of financing is "you shall not payments on a car you dislike." That what was the ultimate swaying point for me when I bought my TJ new in March 1998. I ordered it with the options I wanted, the colors I wanted, and took out a five-year loan. After my trade-in, I had to finance around $11,500. This kept my monthly payments at $220, which was managable.
I ended up paying it off more than a year ahead of schedule, and now that I have the title I can still say this: I love this car. There are somethings that annoy me about it (mostly the noise and poor gas mileage) but I love how it looks, I love driving it around with the top down, I love that I can handle nearly any BLM or USFS "road" when I am out in the wild. I maintain it religiously (oil change every 3000 miles, all other fluids every 20,000 miles) and it has given me over four years and 40,000 miles of almost perfect service.
I recommend caution here on the board when new people post questions asking if they should get a Wrangler, because I think they need to know some of the downsides to this vehicle. Fact is, though, that I love this Jeep and never hated making payments on it. I've paid it off and have no desire to get rid of it. How many vehicles can you say that about, especially in this price range?
Apr 09, 2002 (10:43 am)
Do i have to wait till I recieve the recall before I take TAZZ to the dealer? Or, can i just take it now with the recall #?
Deb..be glad to email ya copy of sticker & invoice..no prob...
I agree with saharagal..go to jeep.com figure out what you want with everything..figure out payments..then start dropping exta options u could live without..I would try to get the largest downpayment u can..that will get those payments lower..
i always pay $20.00 more on my payment..that will help on the end.
Keep Us posted
Apr 09, 2002 (11:36 am)
Congrats on having enough discipline to pay your '98 off early. We're still paying for our '98, and won't have much chance to pay it off early. Our first major repair was the exhaust manifold.
I love your rule about not making payments on a car you can't stand. We're in that position. We bought (and financed) that Y2K Taco now sitting in the driveway because I haven't bothered to take it to get it fixed (suspect possible partial radiator blockage). At the time we bought it we had planned on keeping it for 10 years, like our Nissan. However, there is a great deal of comfort difference between an '88 Nissan Hardbody and a '00 Tacoma. Our Wrangler will probably stay with us that long, unless we decide to trade it in on another Wrangler sometime - I plan on always having a Wrangler as long as our life style stays the same.
I agree that the Wrangler isn't for everyone, and have often posted here about the many drawbacks to it (gas mileage, poor handling in the wind, steering too quick for safe handling at high speeds, bouncy suspension, especially over expansion joints on certain freeways). On the other hand, I'd rather pay the extra gas (15 gallons rather than 10 gallons every 2 days), and have a longer commute due to slower speeds than put up with the Taco.
Anyone buying a car should be really sure that what they are buying is what they want. No one wants to be in my shoes - I'm on the wrong side of the note on the Taco (owe more than its worth) and will probably end up either having to buy a new car for considerably over what it would normally go for to make up the difference or taking out another type of loan to pay off the difference. That is a horrible position to be in, and I'm just about desperate enough to take the plunge to get rid of the Taco.
Apr 09, 2002 (12:19 pm)
Be sure to check out the Edmunds "car buying" web pages before taking the plunge. I did that on my last car and was surprised to see some of the dealers doing exactly what Edmunds predicted they would do (namely sell by payment rather than overall price). It pays to go into this informed and thereby more confident.
Good luck. I have to wait until August and I am still trying to find out what, if anything, is going to change on the '03 TJ.