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Nov 15, 2000 (2:23 am)
I am a second time Wrangler owner. I would reccomend this vehicle to a certain crowd. If you have kids.....forget it. If you can't take a little wind, or road noise don't bother. If you enjoy a powerful agile vehicle, this is your best bet. My first Jeep was a 1991 sport. Red with black tops. A rough ride, but an absolute workhorse. It had 90,000 miles on it when I bought it, and 130,000 when I sold it. She still ran like a champ. I didn't have one mechanical problem with it. I know Jeeps are meant to go offroad, eventhough I do it very rarely. But when I do go offroad, I know I am behind the wheel of the most capeable vehicle out there. Last spring I bought a 2000 Sahara Wrangler. Roll up windows are a must in my opinion. The plastic windows get scratched too easily. It is also less noise, because I drive it to school, and work everyday. If you need a car that is good on gas mileage this car is not for you. I get about 15 mpg on my five speed. The 97-2000 style Wranglers, are a suprising improvement over the 88-96 Jeeps. Its "almost" like a car inside, and the suspension is ten times better than the latter. I'am not saying it rides like a Ferrari, but it is still a "truck". (I hate when people call them trucks:)To any one considering getting a Wrangler, I would suggest the 6 cylinder engine, and a hardtop for the winter. Stay away from the yellow ones. Yellow is a sports car color, not a jeep color! I opted for the abs on my Wrangler, which means I couldn't get the 30 inch tire package. I got the "grizley" rim instead, keeping it somewhat original, because most people don't opt for those wheels. I am a "car nut", but will always have some kind of Jeep in my garage! I hope you learned something about my very opinioniated article!!
Keep on Jeepin' Oh yeah-they rule in the snow!!!!
Nov 15, 2000 (3:03 am)
I have a 2001 Sport with the 4.0 and 5 spd. and I am quite happy with it. One of my co-workers is trying to decide on automatic or manual. Any suggestions? Does the auto take much power away?
#302 of 23393 Praise God for tsjay
Nov 15, 2000 (5:40 am)
tsjay, congratulations. The $200 over invoice is the best deal I've found as well...even after adding in the $377 "advertising" add-on. What do the rest of you guys think about that...the advertising add-on, that is? Is that something that can be negotiated away?
I also am in the process of negotiating for a Wrangler Sport. As a matter of fact, I am selling my Ferrari (and trading UP...ha ha). Actually, the Ferraris are so tempermental that a Jeep would be like getting a good night sleep after a hard day. I'm also getting rid of my Pathfinder (my foul weather vehicle) and deciding that all I really need is one versatile vehicle...enter, 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport (p.s. why does everyone refer to it as a "TJ").
OK...the crux of my questions: I am undecided among a couple options and features.
A lot of people have the 30" wheels -- the trade-off being ABS. I was going to go with the ABS and the Grizzlys. What size are the Grizzlys? How important is ABS? And is it worth the tradeoff?
As for color, I test drove the yellow. It made me dizzy. My Ferrari is yellow...and it should be the only car that boast that color. Therefore, I'm inclined to go with a Silverstone Jeep. Black only looks good when it's just washed...and boy does it look good then. And white is too common.
Question #2. Does the new 4-ply soft top really make that much of a difference? I'm only getting the soft top...I live is the terperate Washington DC area. Neither the Winters nor the Summers are [too] extreme. Any input?
Lastly, how do you experienced Jeeps feel about the automatic versus manual. I've always had stick shift vehicles and find them very fun to drive -- although my automatic Pathfinder is a dream in DC's rush hour traffic. What's the reliability of the transmissions?
Your input is, as always, greatly appreciated.
#303 of 23393 oh yeah...one more question
Nov 15, 2000 (5:47 am)
Me again. Talk to me about the "Dana rear". I know a Dana, and her rear is nothing to get excited about. Is the TJ Dana rear a worthwhile investment?
#304 of 23393 Gilbus
Nov 15, 2000 (6:02 am)
Thanks for the kind words.
I still haven't fully made up my mind about the white, but I would say that I am around 95% certain that that's what it will be. You said they were common, but not really around here. I hardly ever see a white one. There's all kinds of red ones, black ones, and even a lot of the yellow ones around here.
I like your silverstone idea. It is a very close second in my book, and the steel blue is gorgeous also.
The reason I'm so hung up on white is because I saw I white one at a dealership I had to drive past every week, and I almost always stopped and drooled over it. She was beautiful. The black top and deep tinted windows really set off the white sheet metal.
I will let others answer your questions about options- I just plain don't know about that stuff.
Catch you later
#305 of 23393 I know, you're wondering how...
Nov 15, 2000 (6:23 am)
Ok, everyone that has followed the tsjay epoch must be wondering about financing, knowing how far upside down I am on the GP.
It's called a home equity loan. I am borrowing a few thousand to take care of most of the deficit on the GP between the trade-in allowance and the payoff.
People, this Jeep is going to have to be mine for a long, long time. I hope I will finally be satisfied (I'll HAVE to be).
I still have the opportunity to sell my Grand Prix before the Jeep comes in, and I will have an ad in the paper starting tomorrow. If I can get a thousand or fifteen hundred more than the trade-in allowance, so much the better.
Nov 15, 2000 (7:22 am)
well, i'll admit it. After all these months I didn't think you were ever going to do it. I read about your wanting a jeep when i first started looking for jeeps a while back. I've had my jeep for a month now (after ordering it) and love it!
Though a little late... I have 2 cars - one my jeep, the other a honda civic. Since i got my jeep my honda's been sitting in the drive, but i don't want to get rid of it. I kept it for a couple reasons - gas mileage, quieter, was an auto (learning manual still...), _very_ reliable, jeep will be worked on for days on end, and i can luckly afford both. Even though my jeeps a manual i still drive it everywhere. I took it on a 2 hour trip (2 hours there, 2 hours back) a couple weeks back and didn't have any problems. Noise wasn't bad at all (much better then 2000), mileage sucked but it was funner. As i said, i currently use the jeep as my commuter car (about 10-15 miles each way) and don't have any problems. I'll pry switch to my civic once i really become comfortable with manual, just to save somewhat on gas (ya, ya...could save more by selling civic =)...)
Anyways, you'll enjoy your jeep!
Nov 15, 2000 (2:24 pm)
are you getting the full doors?
Nov 15, 2000 (4:11 pm)
Congratulations. Glad to hear you going through with it.
I have heard real good things about selling in autotrader. You may want to consider it.
You should of asked for more on your trade-in. It never hurts to ask. Who cares though, your getting a JEEP!
I have heard the pro comp is rough on the pavement. I would look at Rubicon and Teraflex.
I have heard the advertising fee can be negotiated.
TJ is the model name for 97'-01', YJ 86.5'-95'
I don't know much about ABS. I don't have it and don't want it. I can stop my Jeep without any problems. I would consider it if I had to drive on that white stuff northerners talk about.
Silverstone sounds good. Mine is black and love it.
The new soft tops make a big difference from what I hear. I only have the soft top and like it.
There are some complaints on the manual. Sticky shifting, noisy in neutral, and pops out of gear. My manual was a little noisy at first but not anymore, Shifting is still sticky but not bad. Has never popped out of gear. I have not heard anything bad about automatics. The auto may lack power depending on how you drive. I would test drive both and go with the one you think is best.
The Dana 44 rear end is a stronger axle. I think it is worth the money.
#309 of 23393 saenzski
Nov 15, 2000 (7:48 pm)
Yes, I am getting the full metal doors, since I am going with the hard top rather than the soft top.
I really don't think I'll be going topless very much, and I can still take the hard top off once in a while if I want to. I just think for my purposes the hard top makes more sense.
Catch you later