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#2446 of 23393 Any deeper discounts now that 2001's can't be ordered? by saharagal

May 15, 2001 (2:58 pm)

I'm in the market for a Sahara, and am wondering if people are getting better deals than $100 or $200 above invoice. I spoke with a dealer who said they're selling their Wranglers for around $200 under invoice right now. Unfortunately, that particular dealer doesn't have the color I want.
 
I'm wondering if most dealers are trying to move the 2001's to make room for the 2002's. Anyone bought one recently?? I'd like to know how far they'll go! I'm in the Atlanta area.
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Can't wait to hug my Jeep!

#2447 of 23393 Oil Question by kwilson4

May 15, 2001 (5:58 pm)

I throw this out to anyone who has an opinion: What brand oil do you use in your Jeep and why? I know that everyone has their own preference when it comes to oil, but if you have a justifiable reason for one brand in particular, I would like to hear it. Also, does changing brands of oil from time to time have a negative effect on your engine?

#2448 of 23393 Paul by tsjay

May 15, 2001 (6:06 pm)

There are some very good reasons to consider a new Wrangler rather than a used one, if there is any way possible to handle it financially.

The Wranglers are not and have not been selling well, and the dealers are letting them go for $200 over invoice and sometimes even selling them at invoice.

There is a $500 factory to buyer rebate which can bring your effective purchase price to $300 or more below invoice.

If you want an automatic transmission, they are free now. I would rather have the five speed, even with the automatic being free.

Since used Jeeps hold their value so well, and considering what I have told you about new ones, it might make more sense to go with a new one rather than with a late model used one.

I have only been a Jeep owner for about five months, so I can't help you much as far as the used ones. I do know that you would do well to get at least a '97 model or newer. These are the TJ's and have a much better suspension system than the YJ's, which were the previous models. The TJ's have coil springs rather than leaf springs, and the ride is MUCH better. The headlights are round on the TJ's instead of rectangular like the YJ's.

One very important thing that I have learned the hard way is that a soft top is the way to go. I bought the hard top only, and I regret it. A Jeep is only enjoyed to its fullest when the top is down or off. I have taken the hard top off three times this spring, but had to put it back on the first two times because of rain in the forecast.
While it's true that the hard top can be taken off, it is NOT an easy job and requires two people. I also take the doors off, since I have the full metal doors, which you have to have with the hard top. Topless and doorless is a BLAST!

Check out my Thelma Jane and my buying experience in Thelma's web page.

http://members.aol.com/tjoh298765/thelma.html

tsjay

Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#2449 of 23393 kwilson4 by tonkadave

May 15, 2001 (6:26 pm)

I stopped worrying about brands of oil several years ago when I toured a local refinery. They showed us the oil Filling line. They would change from one brand of oil container to another and the same oil never stopped coming out! And I mean all brands were there. I think its more important to look at the specs and type of oil you use. Like Conventional VS. Synthetic. or like 5w30 vs. 0w30. Most people who are using Synthetic let their engine break in on conventional oil for the first 4000 to 5000 miles. Which is what I plan to do.

#2450 of 23393 To Potential Wrangler Owners by drcsf

May 15, 2001 (6:42 pm)

I would look at 97's, 98's or 99's if you can afford it. In 1997 the Wrangler was redesigned to it's current version. Besides the obvious return to round headlights, the interior was redone to be more carlike with air bags and most importantly, the suspension was completely changed from leaf springs (antique design) to coils (like your Cherokee). Much better ride and less chance of rollover were the result. Since then there have only been small improvements. The 4 cyl is more common and cheaper but the automatic (3 speed) transmission with that engine is slow. Drive it first but for me, I'd only get a 5speed with the 4cyl, an auto or manual with the 6 cyl. The hardtop is quiet but very cumbersome to take on and off as others here will tell you. Our Wrangler is also a secondary vehicle and being able to take the softop up or down any time is what makes the Wrangler so much fun. We have A/C in ours and it works well. The half/soft doors are of equal height to the back seat of the Wrangler with the top down. So if you put your kids in the back with the top off there is equal exposure as the half/soft doors in the front. With the top up the only protection in the back is the soft windows, same as the front. Full metal doors in the front, which we have, only give more protection in the front. I am comfortable with my kids seatbelted in the back but my kids are 11 and 6. I can't tell you about wear and tear or colors but I do know Wranglers hold their value better than almost any vehicle, so don't be surprised if a used one costs close to what a new one goes for. Sorry this was so long. Good Luck. Craig

#2451 of 23393 kwilson4 by tsjay

May 15, 2001 (8:54 pm)

I have used Mobil 1 full synthetic oil in all of my vehicles after the first 5K miles on the engine.
 
My first experience with it sold me on it, and I have used it ever since.
 
I had a '94 Z28 Camaro that was making a fair amount of noise on cold starts, but when I switched it to Mobil 1, the cold starts were less noisy and the noise stopped sooner.
 
I also got one mile per gallon better gas mileage. ( I am a nut about checking gas mileage. I check it on EVERY fill up, so when I say I got one mile per gallon better mileage, I am talking over the long run, not just once or twice.)
 
That's what got me started on Mobil 1.
 
Since I do almost all highway driving and very few short trips, I go five thousand miles between changes with the synthetic oil, compared to three thousand with regular oil. This offsets the cost of the Mobil 1 oil.
 
Other full synthetics may be just as good as Mobil 1, but that's the one that I have experience with.
 
I do like to break in an engine on regular oil, and then start on Mobil 1 at 5K miles. May be silly, but I am afraid that the Mobil 1 lubricates too well and might prevent some of the "wearing in" of moving parts.
 
Just Old Tsjay's two cents worth.
 
tsjay
 
Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#2452 of 23393 tech stuff by nkelly1

May 15, 2001 (10:52 pm)

I used to use Torch(up)oil after the break in.
What is in Mobil 1? Is this better than say Slick 50? What do you use in your tarns and rear end?
 
How about spark plugs.. any better than the others for the jeep? I just hit 300 i. so I have a little while yet.

#2453 of 23393 nkelly1 by tsjay

May 16, 2001 (3:58 am)

Mobil 1 is full synthetic motor oil. It is NOT an additive like Slick 50 or any of those products that you add to the oil in your crankcase. I have never used any of those products, and they are not recommended by the factory. I believe it says that they can void your warranty.
 
I'm running Mobil 1 10W-30 in Thelma Jane.
 
So far I haven't had to put anything in the transmission or rear end, but when the time comes, I will just let the Jeep dealer put the regular Mopar stuff in them.
 
There are other brands of full synthetic oil, and they may be just as good as Mobil 1, I just don't have any experience with them.
 
How's it going with that new Jeep? Having a ton of fun with it, I'll bet.
 
tsjay
 
Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#2454 of 23393 saharagal by tsjay

May 16, 2001 (4:06 am)

Welcome, and good luck in your Jeep shopping!
 
I am not aware of any further rebates on the Wranglers, and I don't expect that there will be.
 
From all that I can gather, even this $500 rebate and free auto transmission are very out of character for DC. They usually don't give ANY incentives on Wranglers, even on left-over Jeeps from the previous model year.
 
I've always wondered how they sell those left-over Jeeps without any incentives, since a person could get the current model for the same price. The dealers that I asked said that they don't have a problem selling them.
 
Go figure.
 
tsjay
 
Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#2455 of 23393 What's a good price for a Wrangler Sport by gpvs

May 16, 2001 (5:18 am)

What have you guys been paying for your jeep? I have a buddy here that wants to get one soon, he wants the sport with hardtop, ac . . .can't remember the rest of his wants.

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