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Re: Sloppy Steering [mac24] by erickpl
Jul 02, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jul 02, 2009 4:39 am)

Not trying to put you on the spot. Your posts show you know your stuff.
 
Any more information on the Dakota SP box? Define short term value.
 
I plan to keep this thing for a while longer, even with the mileage it currently has.
 
Any plans to get rid of your H1? Would love to see more pics of it. My wife is still wanting one of those originals. She wants to run over people.
 
-Paul
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Re: Sloppy Steering [erickpl] by mac24
Jul 03, 2009 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Jul 02, 2009 7:19 am)

Any more information on the Dakota SP box? Define short term value.
 
I think heavier duty and different valving than the standard Durango box. However, do bear in mind that when you read a post about how someone replaced their original box with a Durango one and it gave a fantastic improvement, that's usually because the original box was knackered and an OE replacement would probably have given the same result.
You often see similar posts relating to spark plugs, air filters, brake pads etc. Replace a worn out original with almost anything new and you'll see the same result.
 
In regard to short term value I was just comparing it in price and anticipated longevity to the PSC unit.
 
I plan to keep the H1 as long as the Jeep, i.e. until I'm too feeble to maintain and drive it any more.
 
Here's a pic after playing in some Florida mud.
 
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Re: Sloppy Steering [mac24] by erickpl
Jul 06, 2009 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jul 03, 2009 6:48 am)

You, sir, SUCK!
 
Looks like fun.
 
I went and looked at my linkages which I KNEW to be good, but checked anyway. I found something. My driver side tie rod end was WAY loose. Cotter pin was still there, so I'm thinking I never tightened it down completely. D'OH!!!
 
I tightened it down well, repinned it and am currently driving it. In the process I re-centered the steering wheel too. Had a fellow Jeep owner drive it and get his impressions (without me saying anything - just asked opinion of steering), and he said it drives just like his. I think I'll hold off on my steering box replacement and keep kicking myself for not checking the links sooner.
 
-Paul
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Re: Sloppy Steering [erickpl] by mac24
Jul 07, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Jul 06, 2009 5:12 am)

You, sir, SUCK!
 Looks like fun.

 
Oh it is, though not so much the next day when you have to clean it.
 
I went and looked at my linkages which I KNEW to be good, but checked anyway. I found something. My driver side tie rod end was WAY loose. Cotter pin was still there, so I'm thinking I never tightened it down completely.............................I think I'll hold off on my steering box replacement and keep kicking myself for not checking the links sooner.
 
Well, rather than kick yourself maybe you need to re-evaluate the way you check the steering joints.
By far the easiest is to have a helper smoothly rotate the steering wheel half a turn from side to side (with the engine running, parking brake on, and the vehicle on a hard surface), while you lay at the front and study each joint through the full range of movement. Any wear or loosness will be very evident.
 
Also, you might want to check to see if you've over adjusted the steering box in your previous effort to eliminate the play that turned out to be the loose joint.
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Re: Sloppy Steering [mac24] by erickpl
Jul 07, 2009 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jul 07, 2009 6:04 am)

Yeah, cleaning isn't so much fun, but it does give you time to look things over.
 
Your method for checking linkages is exactly how I did it this weekend to find the problem. I THOUGHT I did that before, but apparently I missed something. Believe me, a LONG, DETAILED mental note was made.
 
The adjustments I made on the steering box were done before I put the new tie rod on. It returns to center just like it should and there is no binding in the steering, so while the gears ARE wearing, the box seems to feel about right at this time. If it starts getting sloppy again, a steering linkage check will again occur, along with tightening any loose ones, recheck, then likely a new box.
 
-Paul
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Black 3" Diameter Side Step Rails for 143.98 by kufu
Aug 04, 2009 (4:20 pm)
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JCWhitney.com sell Black 3" Diameter Side Step Rails for total 143.98 Price is to good to pass it up. I allready ordered.
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95 Wrangler YJ 4.0 by dowawoo
Oct 09, 2009 (11:38 am)
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My jeep is making this clatter, I belive its valve related, but before I tear into it want to see if its experanced by other...mainly at idle, and not the injectors , sure they make a click but not that type..
I have 94000 original miles, use good oil, all gets change on regular basis, carries about 44 lbs pressure at idle, no miss, no shake just sounds like a diesel engine..
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Re: 95 Wrangler YJ 4.0 [dowawoo] by mac24
Oct 10, 2009 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: dowawoo (Oct 09, 2009 11:38 am)

My jeep is making this clatter, I belive its valve related, but before I tear into it want to see if its experanced by other...mainly at idle, and not the injectors , sure they make a click but not that type..
 
Good description of a sticking cam follower(s).
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new diesel Wrangler in the works by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (9:22 am)
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I'm thinking the torque in 4L could be impressive....
 
Diesel Jeep Wrangler Coming in 4th Quarter 2010 (Straightline)
 
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Re: new diesel Wrangler in the works [steve_] by mac24
Nov 04, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 9:22 am)

I'm thinking the torque in 4L could be impressive....
 
It all depends on which engine they use. Certainly the potential is there, but look how wrong they got it with the Liberty

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