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Re: 06 vs 07 Wrangler [ocean_shipper] by tsjay
Jan 18, 2009 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: ocean_shipper (Jan 18, 2009 2:39 pm)

Hi, Chuck.
 
The folks I know who have the newer Wranglers seem to be pretty happy with that V6. If you are going to be mainly on the pavement, it shouldn't really matter and may even be a better engine for street use than was the good old 4.0L.
 
The concern with the V6 is low end torque, which is something the 4.0L was famous for. That really comes into play mainly when you are crawling out on the trails, so if you are not going to be "wheelin' " very much, the V6 should be fine. Apparently, the V6 doesn't do too bad in the low end torque department, because people I have wheeled with seem to be OK with it.
 
I think I would want the Rubicon model, if I were going to get a newer Jeep with the V6 engine, because the Rubicon transfer case gives you a 4:1 gear ratio, if I remember correctly, and the other models have a 2.72:1 ratio. The lower gearing would help compensate for the lower torque of the V6 at extremely low RPM.
 
Tom
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Re: 06 vs 07 Wrangler [ocean_shipper] by mac24
Jan 19, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: ocean_shipper (Jan 18, 2009 2:39 pm)

Wot Tom said!
 
Additionally, if you get a late model Wrangler, make sure it's a soft top unless you want to take a chance on seeing water cascading over the dash in the rain.
It's an issue that still hasn't found a solution.
 
While I could easily afford to replace my '99 if I wanted, I haven't yet seen anything Wrangler that would be a significant increase in performance or value.
However, if I had to, then a two door Rubicon would probably be my choice.
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Re: Time has come... [embeeduece] by erickpl
Jan 20, 2009 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: embeeduece (Jan 17, 2009 2:30 pm)

If it was a financial decision, I sure hope you have maintenance covered on that Audi! I have an 05 and it has been in the shop for a lot of quirky stuff since nearly day one (our first one, totaled in a wreck, was darn near flawless).
 
I'm still loving my Jeep, but I haven't done much with it the last month or two.
 
Best of luck with your Audi (would love to see what kind ya got - I DO love the A5) and hope to see you back in a fun toy Jeep soon!
 
-Paul
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Re: 06 vs 07 Wrangler [mac24] by erickpl
Jan 20, 2009 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jan 19, 2009 7:25 am)

I'd go against the grain of mac and Tom on this. I'd opt for an 06. Here's a few reasons why:
 
1. 4.0 engine is darn near bulletproof and a proven engine. The V6 is okay, and you can probably do things to it to make it more of a performer, but I'm not into those kinds of engine mods.
2. TJ's have a HUGE aftermarket base at THIS time and those parts are a LOT cheaper than comparable JK parts at THIS TIME. That may change as the JK is out longer, but for now, the TJ is still a LOT cheaper to mod/upgrade.
3. JK's (08+) have a tire pressure system that will drive you nuts if you airdown offroad. 07's don't have it or it works differently.
 
IMO, if you're going to wheel it, a TJ will be easier/cheaper to fix/maintain than a new JK. I sure wouldn't wanna flop a new JK (I have flopped a TJ).
 
Now depending on your usage, that could be different. The JK axles are generally stronger than the TJ's D44's. The JK is more streetable than the TJ (more comfortable). But if you're going to wheel it, a TJ is a better way to go (and easier to fix).
 
Just go with the soft top only. The freedom top is a pain from what I've read about it.
 
In making your decision, you can't go wrong with either, but each has their strengths, depending on what YOU want.
 
-Paul
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Re: Time has come... [tsjay] by embeeduece
Jan 20, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: tsjay (Jan 17, 2009 2:35 pm)

Thanks, Tom. I'll continue to lurk around here. And I'm giving my Jeep a BIG hug before she's gone for good.
 
Thanks, Paul, as well. I know Audi's maint can be crazy, so yeah, I had her checked thoroughly and folded a warranty into the loan. She's an '05 A4 Quattro w/ 6spd manual.
 
Never posted a pic of the Jeep before; trying now. If successful, it's her in Joshua Tree National Park.
 
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Soft Top by Jeep0523
Jan 21, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Recently i've been having problems getting my soft top on and off. I believe the bars are bent to the point where it is ripping my top. Does anyone know a way to fix the bars so they no longer put so much pressure on the top? Also if that can't be fixed, can you just buy the hardware for the soft top, and where is a good place to do so?
Thank you
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Re: Soft Top [Jeep0523] by erickpl
Jan 22, 2009 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: Jeep0523 (Jan 21, 2009 10:57 am)

Have you hit anything or laid the Jeep over to cause any kind of bend? Have you been raising or lowering your top in the cold?
 
It is ALMOST a fine art to getting the TJ top up and down smoothly. I don't mess with it but twice a year - once in the spring to take the top off and run the safari, and once in the fall to put the soft top back on. During that time, the soft top is totally off - hardware and all.
 
But there is a process that I find works. But I would like to know if you have done anything to the soft top hardware (bows/frame) that would put any kind of stress on the top. Properly fit, it IS tight, but the cold does NOT help at all.
 
-Paul
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Re: Soft Top [erickpl] by Jeep0523
Jan 22, 2009 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Jan 22, 2009 5:50 am)

I haven't hit anything or laid the jeep over. I do take it on and off several times in the summer and spring. I also have put it up when it was chilly, around 50-55 degrees. I found a website that just sells the hardware, so i might just fix the top and buy new hardware. How well does the safari top protect from rain??
Thank you
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Re: Soft Top [Jeep0523] by erickpl
Jan 22, 2009 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: Jeep0523 (Jan 22, 2009 10:41 am)

It does pretty well but there is a gap between where the door surrounds turn down and the cage so water can get in there, but it's not bad. I'm lining my interior this summer and all carpet is coming out. I run a duster in back and occasionally a windjammer, but Bestop's Halftop setup is much better and eliminates those gaps quite well. If I were buying something now, it'd be one of those.
 
Do you have pics of where the top is ripping? It sounds more like a procedural issue when putting the top up or perhaps even down.
 
Here's how I've done it with no problems.
Taking top down:
1. Remove rear window and side windows.
2. Undo plastic clips in door surrounds.
3. Undo latches in windshield frame, but do NOT totally undo yet.
4. Go to rear of tub and press down slightly on rear bow and remove corner pieces from tub.
5. Finish unclamping windshield area and fold back slowly. As you get close to it laying flat, be sure to fold the plastic door surround clip things inwards. If you don't, you run the risk of them tearing out.
 
Putting top up. See steps above.
1. Unfold up to windshield frame.
2. Insert windshield frame clamps but do NOT clamp em down.
3. Press down on rear bow and insert rear corners into tub.
4. Ensure plastic clips are not being pinched between soft top frame and door surrounds.
5. Ensure middle bow is resting on rest of frame (you'll see what I mean if you look at your soft top up from inside by the cage hoop).
6. Clamp down windshield frame.
7. Insert FRONT clips into door surrounds.
8. Insert rear window
9. Insert side windows. Having the second clip unhooked at this point, makes it a LOT easier to start the zippers.
10. Insert rearmost plastic clip into door surrounds.
 
Enjoy.
 
-Paul
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Re: What kind of exhaust [jeepinjustin] by 94mudbogger
Jan 23, 2009 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: jeepinjustin (Jun 25, 2005 4:20 pm)

i have a 94 jeep wrangler sahara with the exact modifications as you except i have a 3in lift. But i put a flo masters 40 series exaust on mine and it adds some "texture". Its only a deep tone, but from what i herd its the best quality out there.

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