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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 09, 2008 5:48 pm) Great looking Jeep!!! Thanks for the Help! I'm a little concerned about having the gears changed. I don't know if I can afford to do that right now, with all of the $$ I'm dropping on lift, tires & wheels. Do I need to do it right away? How much "power" am I going to loose by not changing the gearing? Will it really affect the power that much? Would it b elike going from a 4.0l to a 2.5 4 cyclinder? Tom: Great memory! I did order mine with a Tan top, but it came with a black top..... It was a 4 banger, so I traded it in on a 02 Sport. EXACTLY the way I ordered the 1st one, except I had every factory option they had put into it at the time... I wish I would have waited 2 years and got a Unlimited Rubi, but who knew then.... I have driven all over the counrty in my 02. From Vegas I moved to Pittsburgh, then to Hoboken then to Brooklyn, and now back to Las Vegas.. It's been my daily driver for over 6 years and still runs great! Its starting to leak a bit of oil, but nothing too major... I have thought about trading it in on a 4 door JK as i like the new look and 4 doors. But with the price of gas constantlly going up, I have chose to keep it, lift it, put on bigger tires and drive it as my daily driver one more year. Then get a small car to drive to work and to the store. i'll keep my Jeep as a weekend driver. Hope all is well... Great to hear from you again! I promise to keep in touch more regularly! Rich
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Replying to: chefrm (Jun 10, 2008 6:47 pm) Wow! Great to be back in touch with you again! You have certainly gotten around in the last few years. I guess you must be the "Galloping Gourmet... Chef?"  You are talking about going to 33s, right? Do you currently have the 3.73 gear ratio for your axles? If so, I would NOT automatically regear without first having driven the Jeep a while after the 33s go on. Yes, there will be some loss in acceleration, but you might very well decide that it is not a big deal, since you do have the 4.0 L engine and will still have decent power. Regearing is a major expense and MUST be done by someone who has experience and who will stand behind his work. What might happen is that you will need to stay in fourth gear when you are cruising around at about 40 MPH instead of shifting up to fifth gear. Not a biggie. (I'm assuming you have the five speed manual tranny...can't remember if you said you have an auto or a five speed.) Paul might have been thinking that you had the four banger when he was suggesting that you regear. Paul does have a four banger and regearing is definitely called for with the four banger. Now, if you have the 3.07 gearing, then you might really need to regear. I would still drive it a while first to see if you can live with it, though. Tom Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 11, 2008 3:33 am) Not too sure what gears I have. I do have the Auto with a Dana 44 in the rear. Other than that, I would have to check out my window sticker to see if it states what gears I have... As for the lift - I am having someone install it as I don't have the time/tools/experience for be doing that type of work on my jeep. Yeah - I have moved alot in the last 7 years, like 7 times in 7 years.... Not fun! Talk to you later! Richard
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Replying to: chefrm (Jun 11, 2008 10:15 am) If you have the Dana 44 rear end, then you should have the 3.73 gear ratio. Did you get the AAS package from the factory? That package is a killer deal that would have gotten you the Canyon wheels, Dana 44 with 3.73 gear ratio, and 30" tires for about $850.00. I'm going to guess that after driving the Jeep with the 33s on it with your current gearing, you will decide that the loss of acceleration is not bad enough to warrant the expense of regearing. If you DO regear, make sure that the person doing the work is someone who has lots of experience in that kind of work and who will guarantee his work in writing. Setting gears is a real art, and not just anyone can do it. Tomster Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 11, 2008 12:49 pm) That is the package that I got. i also have the limited slip differencial - not too sure if that will affect anything or not.... Once I get the 33s, I'm going t odrive it for a while to see how much, if any, power is lost.... Thanks! Richard
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Replying to: chefrm (Jun 11, 2008 3:32 pm) There WILL be SOME power loss. That is just a matter of physics. Going to a larger tire has the same effect as if you had changed your gearing to a higher ratio (lower numerically). If you are now on 30" tires now and go to 33" tires, you are effectively changing your gearing from 3.73 to 3.36. (Ten percent up on tire diameter equals ten percent down on gear ratio number.) Many Jeeps came from the factory with 3.07 gearing, so even with your 33" tires, you will have a lower gear (higher number) than many Jeeps. Will it have the same accleration as you have now? No. Will the acceleration be as good as the Jeeps that came out with the 3.07 rear ends? Yes. The limited slip feature does not come into play with respect to gear ratio. Hope I haven't confused you. Tomster Have you hugged your Jeep today? P.S. Guess I should have added that I plan to go to 33s for my next set of tires on Thelma Jane, and I have NO plans to regear.
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Gee, I come back here, and everyone else leaves. Why is no one posting? Tomster Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 13, 2008 4:40 pm) It runs in spurts. Hang around. Terrry |
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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 11, 2008 4:55 pm) I am having a company called 4 Wheel Parts here in Las Vegas do the work. They are a national chain and have a great reputation in LV for working on Jeeps. I have been talking to a few people and they were telling me that you can get GREAT deals on Tires & Wheels on the internet. They get drop shipped to your house and the tires are mounted and balanced on the wheels. Pretty much bold on and go. Has anyone went this route? If so, tell me about your experences.. Both good and bad. If the savings is better this may be a good option..... Thanks! Richard
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Replying to: tsjay (Jun 10, 2008 10:02 am) Tom I still drop by occasionally, mainly to this original forum. Paul has things pretty well covered, but I still pick an easy one to answer now and then.  Glad to hear you're continuing not to smoke; I'm sure it's still a day at a time. Good job! Still putting miles on both the Jeep and the AMG. 
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